Spirit Of The Law

The ranked DM queue might be getting replaced with a ranked Empire Wars queue. Thoughts?

4 years ago | [YT] | 525



@religiouslyhealing5400

Me. Who is still bad at the campaign maps and too scared to play online

4 years ago | 165

@amirsalehabadi7243

I WANT A RANKED REGICIDE QUE IS THAT REALLY SO MUCH TO ASK FOR 😭

4 years ago | 21

@aarononon

It's good that they're expanding the options and everything, but not at the expense of the specialist DM players who have been active in the community for years. DM's top players list is quite different to RM's, whereas the top lists for EW and RM is pretty much the same. Push all 3 :)

4 years ago | 51

@mattks1001

DM should have its own queue, just like on voobly. I don’t like DM and don’t want it as an option, but that doesn’t mean there are not players who like DM. Empire Wars is similar to RM and can be included occasionally. It can be in the rotation.

4 years ago | 45

@stevedefazio3140

Having both as an option dilutes the player pool, and having a deep player pool is crucial to setting up quality matches.

4 years ago | 56

@connormako1987

Ranked wonder race!

4 years ago | 5

@sierra4980

Both an option seems better IMO.

4 years ago | 2

@Slimurgical

Combine RM Ranked with Empire Wars and have DM have its own option since it's inherently massively different. Empire Wars is just RM with an advanced start, 4X games do this usually all the time.

4 years ago | 17

@EhurtAfy

Both or neither, a big problem in having too many modes would be a fragmented player-base. Most Age of Empires players don't even touch ranked so there's an argument for random map only

4 years ago | 1

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4 years ago | 0

@0skaremil

I like Empire wars more, so if I had to choose I'd go with that

4 years ago | 1

@hallamhal

I have no idea what either of those are 😢

4 years ago | 2

@stevedefazio3140

What they could do is have a rotating set of formats available in ranked. One week empire wars, another week deathmatch

4 years ago | 17

@jordan3087

I think another approach would have been to add EW on map X as an option in the RM map pool. The benefit of this approach is they could have measured the community sentiment through star/ban count of the EW option to better inform their next decision. EW as a separate ladder might split the RM pool too much, decreasing match quality in both RM and EW. I feel for the DM community to have this happen right after DM world cup. I'm hoping it will be easy enough to find DM games in unranked.

4 years ago | 1

@bilbobagainsaoe

It's a positive change in my opinion though only time will tell. I understand the backlash surrounding the whole topic. Given the game's extensive history, there are a lot of people who are against changing the status quo. There are both good arguments for and against the change, but, to my mind, such changes should be welcomed so long as they're progressive and accept constructive criticism rather than being definitive and permanent. The game could be better or it could be worse after the changes. We should keep an open mind and give feedback accordingly

4 years ago | 0

@Nadie-mb4vw

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/ranked-empirewars/ for the people who wants to read the explanation from the dev team to make the change. In my opinion i understand why they are removing DM from the ladder. After checking AOE2.net stats there have been around 600 players playing DM 1vs1 games in the last week compared to the over 32000 players who have played at least one 1vs1 RM game. Sadly DM has always been a niche community along with the CS one, but i guess they could at least try to have a ranked ladder for the 3 modes rather than just getting rid of it.

4 years ago (edited) | 5

@OniUnleashed

I dont care for either but they should both be an option for those who want to play those modes

4 years ago | 2

@CodytheDeer

I've never played the game so I'll go with [your personal preference here]. Out of all the options available, I believe that will make the most players happy, especially the potential problems that would come with the other options

4 years ago | 0

@ad3z10

I don't really get the whole fragmentation argument as I don't see DM & EW as competing game modes. EW is far, far closer to RM and more likely to share players with that pool than to detract from the DM community.

4 years ago | 15

@69avocafo

I don't play either but seems dumb not to have both as an option. Also having just random would be dumb, that's like arguing for not being able to cross off maps from the pool. Which I love doing because fuck island maps Except you nomad I luv u

4 years ago | 1