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# spirit

Character improvement is a dangerous idea. If you improve your character because of strict discipline, adults will push you harder and think other children should be pushed too.

So you have to become lazier, crazier, and irrational in character because you are disciplined so that you can manipulate the adults not to do that. You can't become lazier, crazier, and irrational in behavior because that will be severely disciplined, but you should develop that in character.

Not improving your character is also painful. If you are forced to do your homework anyway, it may be easier to do it with a can-do attitude or even gratitude than with great vulnerability, resentment and anger, but if you want to manipulate adults into not improving your character through more coercion, you have to take the second path. That is also a difficult path, and it is difficult in the present (you are now, not in the future, with great vulnerability, resentment and anger).

However, more commonly, being "positively and optimisticly motivated" is more painful than being fragile and hateful. You don't have any schemes to manipulate adults, and I also hope that this will become a reason for adults to refuse to use coercion to improve character.

Let me give you an example that is both bad and good. Suppose a person is ill and needs surgery to treat the illness, but the surgery itself is painful. In this case, the value of the surgery is something that everyone "records in their ledger." However, suppose there are two types of surgery that are identical in terms of treating the illness itself, but one is more painful than the other. If the choice is made to intentionally opt for the more painful surgery to enhance the patient's character and temper their spirit, the value behind this decision may or may not be "recorded in the ledger," and opinions on this vary among different people. If you were to perform the more painful surgery regardless, and it resulted in the patient's character and spirit deteriorating rather than improving, or if the patient felt anger, hatred, and rebellion because they did not voluntarily choose the surgery, this could be interpreted as a signal not to perform the more painful surgery, or as a signal that the surgery should be more painful to better enhance their character and spirit. Opinions on this matter would also vary among different people.

2 months ago | [YT] | 1

poi

If you are harsh with your child, even as discipline, he will hate you. If you can't see it, it's because he can't see how hating you will make you discipline him less harshly. You may notice that your child still comes to you to play, but the problem is that it can be troublesome to come to someone else to play, so he uses you as a tool.

3 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 0

poi

How obliged is man to make his peers obedient and even fearful? Does our awareness of this matter mean that we can stop pressuring each other at the request of adults?

Or will this be another reason and opportunity we use to convince ourselves to obey, and do we seize it freely, or do we convince ourselves to accept when we are powerless to change?

3 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

If you, maybe because of insensitivity to shame or approval, or for some other reason, think, “There's no other way for children to escape anyway, so I'd rather have them fend for themselves,” and in turn seem to support treating them strictly and harshly, then I don't see how you're “intrinsically unruly and rebellious”. If you hate the discipline imposed on you, but when you were a child you just said to yourself and your peers “I can't get away with this anyway, so I'm going to say I support it,” and then after you stopped being a child you supported, or said you supported what you hated, on the grounds that you wanted children to fend for themselves, then your “intrinsical unruliness and rebelliousness” is actually killed by yourself, and is actually a dried-up corpse hanging on the cloud of your fantasy.

如果你，或许是因为对羞耻或认同不敏感，或许是因为其他原因，心想“反正孩子也没有其他办法逃离，不如要他们自力更生”，然后反过来似乎支持严厉对待他们，那么我看不到你是怎么“本质上不羁而叛逆”的。如果你憎恨别人强加于你的管教，但是个孩子时只是对自己和同龄人说“我无论如何都无法逃离，所以我要说我支持这些管教”，不再是孩子之后又以要孩子自力更生为由支持你憎恨的东西，或者说你“支持那些管教”这样的话，那么你的“本质上的不羁而叛逆”实际上被你自己杀死了，你所谓的“不羁和叛逆”实际上只是干瘪的尸体，吊死在你幻想的云上。

3 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

In fact, typing is in many cases more tiring than writing the same words. The fact that people choose to type rather than write is inseparable from the fact that people are forced to write as children to complete notes, homework, and to copy things as punishment, write self-critical essays, and so on.

4 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

If children pretend to be weak, can they escape being spanked?
These are promising truancy tactics, aren't they? You must try them.

4 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

If you have a store, you could put up a sign that says “Entry is automatically considered to be a belief that the statement ‘Even though this homework assignment is not in itself the most useful to you, you must still complete it in order to develop good habits and foster a sense of rules’ is bullshit. No one else will be served.”

如果你有个商店，你可以立个牌子，写上“进入自动视为相信‘尽管这项作业本身对你不是最有用的，但为了培养好习惯和培养规则意识，你仍然必须完成’的说法是胡说。其他人不予服务。”

4 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

Children have the desire and urge to persuade the disciplinarian not to discipline them, and this desire and urge leads them to try to understand and even value the disciplinarian's point of view and expectations on themselves because this understanding and even valuing is theoretically part of persuading the other person, but for many children this persuasion never gets a chance to happen (because it leads to harsher reprimands and even punishments), and thus they are verbally punished more harshly for their desire to persuade and for the sensitivity to others' words of elevation. There are other times when these children hate the disciplinarian so much that they are not only afraid but unwilling to initiate a debate with the disciplinarian, but this does not stop their minds from seizing on the disciplinarian's views and expectations in order to persuade the disciplinarian in their fantasies, and does not stop their minds from being forced to punish themselves.

4 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

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4 months ago | [YT] | 0

poi

Is the popularity of the concept of “superpowers” and the portrayal of grandiose scenes in arts and entertainment due to the fact that children hate those who discipline them and have violent fantasies that they blame themselves for and cannot express directly? That's how I feel about it myself.

4 months ago | [YT] | 0