Dan and Can is a space for people living in the middle — spiritually, relationally, culturally, and politically.

We’re a married couple (together over 30 years), parents of five, middle-aged, middle-class, living in middle America… navigating life after leaving Christianity without swinging to atheism. We didn’t lose our spirituality — we shed control, certainty, and shame and found something quieter, deeper, and more honest.

This channel brings together our podcasts, candid conversations, and more on marriage, parenting, nervous system healing, and spiritual awakening — all with nuance, compassion, and a good sense of humor.

Candace is a certified hypnotherapist and deconstruction coach, holding space as people heal themselves and reconnect with their inner wisdom.

This channel exists because deconstruction and awakening can feel lonely. We’re in the trenches with you — so you don’t have to walk the middle alone.