I’ve used Both and I have to say the think pad doesn’t run on life support after 3 excruciating years of gaming and updates that deprive the very existence of the computer.
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I think the main difference between those two lines of business laptops is not necessarily the build quality, but the communities around them. Thinkpads have a massive following, forums full of enthusiasts that have figured out everything there is to know about a piece of hardware. They have solved software bugs and figured out every hardware problem; they created a market for parts that makes it possible to maintain these laptops for longer. This is a massive advantage Thinkpad line holds to this day. I own a Thinkpad, and it taught me a lot about laptop maintenance because I had access to all of these resources. IMO newer Thinkpads are no longer capable of inspiring the same level of adoration and confidence. Repairability is declining, upgradeability is vanishing. At least the build quality is still solid, though it's also not quite the same. But, like you said in the video, any business class laptop will still come out ahead on each of those fronts when compared to a consumer grade laptop. A Thinkpad remains a somewhat safe bet, but I don't think it's in the same "best in class" position it once held, even with its user-generated resources. Everything is flawed, everything has compromises. Best you can do is research what's available and pick the option you can live with. Sometimes it will be a Thinkpad. Sometimes it will be an Elitebook or a Latitude. Nothing good will come of blind loyalty: compare your options, choose what best fits your needs. That's where I'm at now.
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Thank you, Carey, for making this video. I just picked up a 9th Gen P53 ThinkPad Amazon refurb. and it had a swollen battery. It's expected since it is 4 yrs old and I'm ok with that simple fix. Bought replacement from Lenovo. It has 3 nvme slots and 32 gig ram. Solid build quality. It's simple to upgrade up to 128 gigs. I dual boot two drives Win11 & Fedora OS. Third 4T nvme for storage. I absolutely love it.
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After dealing with that soldering issue 4 times way years ago I could never be confident in recommending an hp again. I have an acer still running from that era now.
8 months ago | 1
Currently refurbishing and replacing thermal paste with PTM on 100's of HP Elitebook 850 G6 laptops with i5-8365U. Some of them have the old original bios which allows undervolting and that gives a major performance boost. -150mv cores and -80mv on the cache with throttlestop. -lock and disable windows bios update inside the bios options.
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No. ThinkPads are in a category of their own. Elitebooks are good, ThinkPads are legendary. I once saw a dude swap out literally every part on the machine besides the motherboard and chassis. He swapped RAM, CPU, trackpad, screen, keyboard, and even the front keyboard-side part of the chassis to get the one with the fingerprint scanner. Note: by ‘swapped’, I mean he either replaced the part or changed the part with another model. The person I saw swapped the trackpad installed with a version that had physical buttons, changed the cpu to an i7 model, and changed the top chassis to include a fingerprint scanner where none was there before. ThinkPads are phenomenal for modularity Edit: Added the note for clarity Edit2: user 0w3nn states that he owns a 2010 elitebook that allows for similar swapouts.
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HPs not only have Hardware Problems, but their own software is god awful. I had a Zbook back in the day (~2018), because a lot of people were recommending it. I made a fresh install of Windows and upon trying to install basic drivers, I was bombarded with bloatware, that took up nearly 20% utilization of my processor (i7-8850H), and often times my (16GBs of) ram would be halved. Not to mention, that I had to reinstall Windows every 2 months, because it would be so unusably slow.
9 months ago | 1
Old HP elitebooks are on par with Old lenovo ThinkPads. I owned a ThinkPad R61 and a Elitebook 8740w, both are built strong and to last
9 months ago | 3
I don't know what the new ones are like, but my old elite book was still running fine at 16 years old with a couple of easy upgrades. Only thing wrong was the backlight was worn out.
9 months ago | 21
I'd say the elitebooks are either halfway or 80% of it there. Not bad at all, but not quite thinkpad like. Though I had one that did not require me to remove a single screw to get to the components, that one was sick, but I forgot its model number.
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Would rather type on any Lenovo instead of any HP... But prefer any ATIV Samsung though. Nearly 15 years and notebook and netbook still working fine. Even batteries are fine.
9 months ago | 1
I bought an Elitebook 845 G8 for my first laptop new around 440 bucks off ebay. Been loving it honestly, does what I need which is mostly browsing, YouTube, and very light gaming. Does get hot easy, but very nice keyboard. I also got it because it's very nice to upgrade in the future and replace, as I wanted a laptop that could last for years.
9 months ago | 3
I have both. An Elitebook 840 G6 and an X1 Carbon. My Elitebook is an all metal chassis, X1 is a plastic frame. I still can get parts for all. But I love my Lenovo.
9 months ago | 0
HP's business laptops are a completely different beast from the crap they peddle at Best Buy. They're not perfect but I'd happily own one.
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Every company I support. I have strategically weened them off of HP and Dell and got them on the Lenovo tit and everyone thanks me for showing them the light. Most clients prefer the reliability and affordability of off lease Thinkpads. I only stick with the T series for standard users, x1 for executives that travel, P series for engineer types. If I see E, V, L or Yoga or any AMD variant I know they blindly picked uo something brand new and on sale smh. There is a method to the madness after 25 year. Long live the T43
9 months ago | 4
I ran a Lenovo for like 10 years never cleaned it once and the thing just worked this was before I knew anything about pcs so I definitely vouch for them unless they have seriously gone down hill
9 months ago | 0
The elitebooks are a decent laptop, but you cannot beat a ThinkPad, unless it's a T520. I despise that thing and much prefer my L512. I've got a ProBook from about 12 years ago which I can imagine is the predecessor to the Elitebook, and can say it's a great laptop. Runs windows 10 without any problems and is completely toolless entry to the entire system. Socketed CPU as well and a slot for an mSATA SSD or a WWAN modem. SIM card slot for the modem is in the battery compartment. Has every port under the sun, including eSATA, FireWire, an expresscard slot, full size DP and VGA, a DB9 serial port, SD card reader, DVD-RAM drive and separate mic/headphone jacks. Also has accommodation for a second battery under the laptop and a docking station. Beats any modern laptop I've seen for repairability and build quality. Definitely stacks up well next to my 2 ThinkPads of the same era. It's a ProBook 6570b and it's T H I C C. Honestly can't believe they cannot make a competent laptop nowadays
9 months ago | 5
I have Thinkpad x230, Elitebook 840 g2 and Dell Vostro (doesn't know model) I7 core 3rd gen. Elitebook is my favorite laptop for now.
9 months ago | 0
THE HINGE PROBLEMSB ON HP LAPTOPS 😭, THE PART NEAR THE HINGE ALWAYS BREAK
9 months ago | 1
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A lot of debate happening in my recent video! Is the HP EliteBook on the same level as the Lenovo ThinkPad? Hop on over to the video comments and argue with someone so Lupe and I can settle our debate.
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