You know what bothers me about the RDR polls? Imagine you work on a farm as a boy, and your pa goes to town to go gather some food and sundries. Then you find out the next day, he got hit by a stray bullet and passed away during a bank robbery. Now your mother has to sell the farm and you grow up in poverty and fatherless. And we get asked “was this gang member good”.
2 weeks ago | 2,200
What I love about Charles is he doesn't feed the delusion that he's some higher person to justify what he does. He knows what he is, he knows he's some lowdown outlaw, but that doesn't stop him from being a good person overall. Him leaving the gang before the final showdown was honestly the best possible outcome for him, lest he end up like Grimshaw and Arthur, and him coming back to help John at Beecher's Hope was honestly a nice touch to the epilogue for his story
2 weeks ago (edited) | 1,100
I think the encounter with the Germans perfectly exemplifies Charles character. As soon as they told him their father/husband was kidnapped, he didn't hesitate to ask where they took him and when Arthur says that their problem doesn't concern them, he chastises him for his selfishness. You'll also notice that the only man he killed in cold blood was a poacher and the one robbery he leads (in a DLC that's only available if you bought the deluxe edition) involves blowing up a bank wall at night when nobody's there. Even in the story, Charles is only involved in three robberies: the train in chapter 2, the payroll coach in chapter 3 and the St. Denis bank heist. This is less than Sean, who is introduced in chapter 2 and killed in chapter 3. Every time his in a violent situation, it's mostly to save someone, protect someone or rescue something. Saving Sean, rescuing the immigrant, saving Trelawney, rescuing Jack, freeing the Wapiti's horses, protecting Lakay, rescuing the girl at Beaver Hollow, breaking Eagle Flies out of army custody, rescuing Eagle Flies at the oil refinery, protecting the wood and saving Uncle. I think if Charles been born a few decades earlier, he would've lived his life as a cattle driver and settled in the black communities in the west, in Tulsa probably.
2 weeks ago | 1,400
While I definitely think he is one of the most morally good members of the Van der linde gang, I am very hesitant to call him a good person because he still did alot of bad things while being a member of the Van der linde gang. I still think he is a better person morally than someone like Arthur Morgan.
2 weeks ago (edited) | 4,200
I like the idea of someone whos good at heart but forced to do evil for survival. Brings a lot to the character ngl
2 weeks ago | 258
"There are good people here... good and bad. The sad thing is good people do bad things." ~Hosea Matthews
2 weeks ago | 37
Arthur said it himself in his journal after they helped the German family, Charles doesn’t have to think about doing good and helping people because he always will.
2 weeks ago | 11
Probably the most good willed out of all of them, he deserved his happy ending
2 weeks ago | 744
They're all bad men. Yes. But some of them at least have a desire to be good men. Micah is evil at the core, sociopathic, only out for himself. Dutch is evil. He's also a sociopath, that uses his philosophy to convince himself he's like Robin Hood. John and Arthur both want to be good men, yet feel trapped in a life of crime because that's all they know. Charles is like that too, he has a personal moral code that is good at heart, but allows for evil action to survive.
2 weeks ago (edited) | 6
Of a bunch of objectively bad people, Charles is one of the best. Hes got a good heart, but is VERY willing to get his hands dirty, like, almost eagerly. If he kept better company, hed be a better man.
2 weeks ago | 26
Charles with the buffalo hunters scene will always stay with me on why he’s a real ass dude
1 week ago | 3
All of them are evil and sometimes show a good side. Just well written characters that feel human
2 weeks ago | 5
I always find it strange when people see some of the characters in red dead as heroes, the intention of the game was to show you how the wicked never privail each of them lose something through the game whether its their life, their humanity, A place of their own or A healthy mind and the likely neutral bad ones might be Some of the ladies... Type of story to give an ethics teacher a hard on
2 weeks ago (edited) | 14
Have y'all even played rdr2, they're all bad men who justify their evil deeds with good intents.
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The point of RDR2 isn’t whether Arthur Morgan is a good or evil man — both sides of him exist depending on circumstance. The true theme of the story is that no one escapes the consequences of their choices. In the end, we all pay for what we do. The only real question is whether we accept responsibility or run from it. Even Charles, a man driven by loyalty and love for his people, faced this truth. He had many possible paths to help his tribe, but chose the only one he knew: violence. His intentions were pure, his convictions unshakeable, but the choices he made in the name of protection carried their own cost.
1 week ago | 2
He rides with "bad people" but has a good heart. A ruthless criminal doesnt care about Buffalo being poached. Even like Arthur said the gang used to help people a lot more than they were in 1899. Charles been with them less than a year.
2 weeks ago | 113
charles has a good heart, he always wanted to help the needy and really cared for the natives, and their culture.
1 week ago | 0
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Charles is... ?
2 weeks ago | [YT] | 14,213