I actually remember being fully on his side when he had the motto of fighting a corporate channel as an independent creator. But he never actually curtailed the racism against Indians before the songs and when he dropped the "diss-tracks" I remember feeling very weird because why are you literally generalising a country? Why are you perpetuating harmful stereotypes against Indians and then adding some make do wordplay in the end to your Indian bros like you didn't just let this issue run rampant? There was already a slow wave of racism against Indians online which I do admit, a lot is self inflicted because of an unfortunate percentage doing weird stuff. But the hate was worsened after it was generalised to relate to EVERY Indian person and combined with self hating Indian "comedians" online it didn't get better leading to this mess today.
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I'm an Indian dude who used to be 19 at the time when this whole thing happened. I'm very ashamed that I used to be a supporter of this guy despite the abhorrent racism that he used to nonchalantly spread against Indians. Some of the reasons were because I used to think low about the Indians living in India (I'm an expat of another country), I used to watch PewDiePie for entertainment and I was 19 at the time. Looking back, it's insane how he was heavily rewarded with 20+ million subs and was able to happily retire from YT despite spouting lot of racist and fascist sentiments and platforming right wing personalities without being aware of his influence in the digital world.
1 month ago | 25
PewDiePie failed to recognise the difference between a company and a country And basically promoted racism towards india gained a lot of subs and fame for it And didn't face any consequences and living happily in Japan Which still has lasting impact to this day I would say it's a great study on how you having a lot influence basically makes people ignore whatever bullshiz you pull and you can gain a lot from it with little to no consequences
1 month ago (edited) | 97
PewDiePie was making a joke but didn't realise he'd popularised hate towards India and affected the sentiment towards brown people in general for the next few decades.
1 month ago | 6
That whole crap was so ridiculous, so what if any of them have the most subscribers. And people supporting pewdiepie like they are fighting for their country with racism, as if that's gonna help anyone of them. Like bro touch some grass.
1 month ago | 51
I remember during that time people would actively exclude me out of recess, and whenever I passed through the halls I would always hear the lyrics of b lasagna
1 month ago | 6
I wasn't a PewDiePie fan but I was a Markiplier and Jacksepticeye fan so I knew a decent amount about him just never invested. I was in high school and I remember in my content bubble at least the conversation was always framed as independent creator vs corporate entity and what YouTube as a sight should value over the other. I also knew there was racism being thrown at India and Indians happening but never saw it directly, only told to me. So I interpreted that as, 'oh assholes being racist online again' but never associated it with PewDiePie's behavior. Being older now I see the trend in many of his questionable actions over the years, as well as him saying the N word in anger while gaming (I'm a black woman). Also that the defense that the inclusion of "poor English" in the song as just referencing memes are more nuanced of a conversation.
1 month ago | 7
Well at first I didn't really mind it, like i as an Indian in India dont like T-series that much either, but one thing that rubbed me the wrong way was when in one of pewdiepie's music videos in response to T-series he made a song ofc mocking t-series but then he also felt the need to mock India and Indians on a whole. One such instance was of him asking us(indians) if we have fixed the caste system. Like, that was just really weird . How do you, as a white guy, without any idea of what you're talking about? Just drop the caste system as a fcking gotcha moment. Like way to just casually talk about a 1000 Yr old oppressive system. Idk that just rubbed me the wrong way.
1 month ago (edited) | 37
This was the logical conclusion of treating countries and cultures as quirky brands due to the hyper consumerist American culture, which only knows ads, products, and companies. The same American culture is becoming the default in most modern countries.
1 month ago | 5
Indian here (Not from India). I never knew Pewds' content much at all. All i knew was that my cousins liked him a lot and that he should win. i remember unsubbing from t-series too and ignoring any songs that came to my recommendations page. i was 13 when b*tch lasagna came out. I never watched his videos but I'd listen to the song and enjoy it without even knowing what he was saying I started watching him later in life years later only to find out about his anti-semitism and just..... i began to understand all the racism and white supremacist rhetoric and distanced myself immediately. It's insane how many kids watched his content with all this harmful (understatement) messaging. I'm very glad i understand it now
1 month ago | 4
I remember JusReign's video in response to all that and thinking he said all that needed to be said. I wasn't in school nor the target audience (I'm a woman who was already in my 20s by then) so it didn't cross my feed much, but seeing some pick me Indian guys supporting Pewds in all this did pmo a lil
1 month ago | 25
Omg I remember this!! The amount of hate I used to see between literal children over stuff they knew nothing about was awful, myself included
1 month ago | 2
Was ok initially, until he started with the slurs. That was when I unsubbed, "don't recommend channel"-ed, and never looked back.
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One of his "diss tracks" had the lyrics: I'm a blue-eyed white dragon, while you're a dark magician That right there tells you all you need to know about that pos
1 month ago | 27
I remember him mentioning 'Fix your caste system' in the T Series disstrack. Clearly,it was aimed at India and not T-Series. And yeah,sure we have social and economic issues to fix,just like any other country, however,I don't think he really cared. It was surprising to see mainland Indian youtubers be on his side saying he wasn't being racist but just mocking Tseires and that Indians were being 'too nationalist' about T-Series despite the above statements
1 month ago | 7
I was in school at this time, the stuff they were saying to my Sri Lankan classmates was insane.
1 month ago | 1
At the start it was a sub battle between an individual and a corporation, so naturally everybody rooted for PewDiePie to keep the spot, but it devolved into an excuse for him and his fans to be racist towards Indian People and their culture
1 month ago | 14
I didn't care much about the beef between tseries and PewDiePie. What I hated the most about that time was how saimansays was dickriding PewDiePie. He was and who knows is still a racist, saying hard R on stream and people just forgiving him was mind boggling, my classmates also supported him at that time
1 month ago (edited) | 4
i thought there are so many legitimate things to call bollywood (AND Tseries) out on but of course we are not going to get any of those nuanced discussions bc some forgettable, mid yt guy wants to do A Racism
1 month ago | 21
The Brown Experience
The Question that I’m going to ask you guys below is a hint for an upcoming video:
But what do you guys remember about the Pewdiepie VS T Series feud all the way back in 2018?
If you have any thoughts then let me know down below.
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