I think there are, roughly speaking, two groups: 1. Those women who don't fully understand what they are supporting, who are sincerely under some sort of spell / trance, and who sincerely think that: A. men who say they're women are, in some meaningful way, women. B. men who say they're women are not a threat to real women, and women's rights. (Which is much easier to conclude if you already believe A.) 2. Those women who sincerely don't give a crap about women getting hurt, because they feel no loyalty to other women, whatsoever. (I.e.: anti feminists / MRAs.) ..I was a TRA, but I was always group 1. Which, those are the women there is still hope for, me thinks. I still can't say I really understand group 2. Like for instance, how certain women can support, and even encourage, real VIOLENCE against women who don't buy this sh*t! But I know they exist, 'cause I've seen them. And the fact that they support it is 100% beyond me!!! Literally the only explanation I can think of..? Is, they can't possibly give a sh*t about women, and must feel NO sex based solidarity whatsoever. That last part is strange, though. Because even as a former group 1 TRA, myself..? I sort of know what that's like. Because it's more or less impossible to KNOWINGLY feel sex based solidarity, when you fail to recognize that women ARE indeed a sex class, with shared concerns and needs because of it, because you've been brainwashed into accepting "gender" over sex! But I guess some part of me still did, anyway. On a subconscious level. And I think that was part of why I eventually snapped the f*ck out of it. Because that subconscious part of me broke through. And.. I think maybe that was a part that predated my otherwise extremely effective gender ideology indoctrination! Because..? I wasn't RAISED with those beliefs. The TRAs got me at 16! But prior to that, I always used to know what a woman was, vs. what a man was! And I guess some part of me never COMPLETELY forgot! Which was also the part that kept caring about women, so when I saw all that horrible "die, TERFs", etc, stuff..? I was like: "F*CK, this sh*t is ENTIRELY not okay!!! <Explodes>." Which makes me wonder just how much harder it's going to be to snap out of it, for women and girls that are being raised in this belief system, literally starting from day 1!! That really worries me. A LOT. ..Not sure if that added anything to the discussion, but just what came to mind, upon me reading this. I definitely look forward to watching your upcoming video on it! Speaking as someone who often struggles with understanding it myself as well. Even though I used to be on the other side. Funny how that works.. It's like you go through a portal, and once on the other side, you still remember being in Upside-Down Mirror World, but it no longer makes ANY goddamn sense to you. And the longer you're away from it, the less sense it makes, and the more you forget. It's like both realities / perspectives / experiences are written in code that' can't be transferred through that portal. YOU can shift to the other side, (only in one direction, though, generally speaking), but you can't bring any of it with you. Sort of like when you have a SUPER vivid dream, but then you wake up in the real world, and it's all off-limits to you. Because.. doesn't transfer. ..Gonna stop babbling / philosophizing about nonsense now. :P
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I can only think that these women have a very superficial and Idealised view that is based on good intentions and no inkling of the implications of this disturbing ideology for women's rights. Made worse by a refusal to listen to and take heed of any counter argument. 🤔🤔
1 year ago | 16
I would try asking these questions on tumblr if I were you. I’ve asked similar questions there, and people have answered, often in an unexpectedly civil way. I can’t confirm that they were all women, but based on tumblr’s demographic, most of them probably were. If you ask in a way that implies that you are willing to change your mind if provided with a sufficiently strong argument, you’ll get better answers. TRAs are always eager to convert people to their side, so they will be polite if they believe that there’s a chance of this happening. Just a thought.
1 year ago | 6
From memory, when I was in the cult, all was because I felt sorry for them. This really is the key. As much as I treated them as women, and "trans men" as men, I never once believed they actually were women. I did feel great pity for their lot in life (born in the wrong body) and I would prioritise their wants and needs over anyone else's because I agreed that for myself to suddenly be in a man's body would make me extremely uncomfortable and so that became the most hard done by type of person because of the bodily issue. Key is pity. It's weaponised sorrow or empathy or sympathy. If you can get a woman to feel so bad for one of these blokes, to squint and see a slightly womanly essence, you can get her to not only fight for you against other women but to cheer as women are assaulted (or look away and ignore it). It doesn't work the other way, so once they're believers you can't simply show them that they're simply men in dresses who deserve no sympathy. So I'm not sure how to reverse it but it can be prevented if no man gets time irl or online to have a pity party about his body. If she never sees a doco about how hard it is to be trans then she's free. And if she maintains hard boundaries, and never drops her guard to feel bad for these guys she is free.
1 year ago | 16
When I ask women why they support it, it's usually under the guise of "inclusivity", or it's "conservative" to not support it. Other than that, they genuinely cannot seem to answer.
1 year ago | 10
I found an old post I read a while ago on tumblr where a radfem and a TRA discuss gender in a pretty civil manner (mostly). It’s pretty long, but was very useful in helping me understand what the TRAs are thinking. Conclusion: a load of convoluted nonsense that they need mental gymnastics to vaguely explain. The TRA in question is a woman (who identifies as a trans man, I believe). Maybe you’ll find this useful as well: https://www.tumblr.com/feministproblemswithgendercult/715451528537931776/weird-question-of-the-day-so-what-is-terfs
1 year ago | 3
That was a good post, but you nailed the issue very quickly, if you genuinely believe that Trans-women are a category of woman, not a category of men, then every single question you asked at the end is irrelevant because the "male bodied" thing doesn't matter any more than skin colour or height. You might just as easily ask "Is it fair that tall women compete in sport with shorter women?" As though having a "male body" is just an unfortunate little flaw in a woman. To them you are simply discriminating against a group of already marginalised women. (So marginalised that their flag is flying outside every shop and building and school.) I genuinely don't know if Trans-identifying men really ARE women in their minds, or if they've just made themselves believe it, but if you genuinely think this is a marginalised sub-section of women, then all you are doing is trying to discriminate. Remember, they say things like - "There are Trans woman the way there are black women" - as if you would try to remove womanhood from black women and thus are a terrible, terrible person. A lot of this comes down to language sadly, and how the question is framed. Consider abortion. "Tearing babies apart in their mother's womb" sounds inhuman whereas "removal of unwanted cells" sounds like a simple medical procedure. You choose your language depending on your beliefs. Thus "Marginalised, discriminated-against, badly treated women" sounds quite different from "Privileged males appropriating womanhood for their own sexual kicks." It's why Kellie Jay Keen is regularly called an "anti-trans activist" rather than a "woman's rights activist." One is negative, one positive. Women who accept this ideology are trained to think any debate is "Debating human rights." I know several women who claim that feminism isn't feminism at all if Trans-women are excluded. Use the right language and you can paint a picture of sorrowful women trapped in male bodies who want nothing more than to be who they are and only a monster would deny this. It's why they've gone after language.
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I’ve learned the reason why so many women and even girls support the trans movement, particularly trans identified males. I think a lot of women and girls want to believe that males can truly understand our struggles and being oppressed on the basis of our sex. As we all know, women and girls have been conditioned to be more empathetic, compassionate and supportive towards those who are different and deviate from the typical norm of being a man or woman in the eyes of society and they’re attempting to grasp onto the idea of males who claim to know what it’s like to experience what we all experience. It’s dangerous to enable and even encourage this behavior, clearly because it muddles the legal definition of being a woman, and contradicts the protections and rights of all female people.
1 year ago | 1
Peak Trans
Why do women support so-called "trans rights"? I've written a blog in anticipation of a video I plan to make discussing this issue.
www.peaktrans.org/why-do-women-support-trans-right…
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