Douglas Murray, made himself look bad. I respect both of these guys, though, I disagree with both of them on a number of issues. Douglas, being staunchly pro-Israel and staunchly pro-Ukraine did nothing to win hearts and minds for those causes. In fact, I would go as far as to say he hurt them. When you tell average people — who are not stupid — they can’t talk about something because they’re not experts, you create unnecessary opposition. What’s more, Douglas Murray took it even further by acknowledging that the “experts” have severely damaged their own credibility by lying through their fucking teeth over the past decade, in overt fashion; Russiagate, Hunter’s laptop, Biden’s cognitive health, Covid and more, then contradicts himself by saying we should trust them. I don’t necessarily agree with Dave about the Israeli response, but, he came out of that debate 100% unscathed. He was the voice of reason, and he applied his arguments rationally and consistently, and it made Douglas look like an unreasonable, inconsistent, historical NPC.
5 months ago | 6
Whatever the outcome, let's just remember that Douglas is always right
5 months ago | 17
Douglas made an absolute fool of himself. How any human can act and think like that is beyond me.
5 months ago | 41
I feel like the poll results are just trolling lmao. Doug just makes fallacy machine go brrrrr
5 months ago | 90
Only pro Israel pro Ukraine war shills would think Douglas won that debate. I lost a lot of respect for Douglas in that debate. It was embarrassing.
5 months ago | 68
I'd say Dave Smith but I'm not sure. I'm not a professional and I wasn't at the JRE so I can't give any kind of legitimate input.
5 months ago | 161
If anyone thinks Douglas Murray won that debate is obviously not an expert
5 months ago | 26
Murray acted like he could read minds Dave came with facts that he didn’t want to Hear Definitely Dave for the Win
5 months ago | 20
Murray didn’t debate, he just complained, and took everything Dave said out of context
5 months ago | 18
Douglas was very British. I loved how he policed speech and rhetoric rather than engage in the debate. That’s what I want representing us. The whole podcast was like that moment of grief as the soggy biscuit breaks away and falls into your cup of tea. I expect better.
5 months ago (edited) | 65
With Murray’s appeals to authority, I almost thought he switched to being a leftist.
5 months ago | 54
Joe needs to get someone from Gaza to debate Douglas... If visiting means he is an expert, imagine what living in Gaza means; God-tier all knowing insights.
5 months ago | 29
Not the results I was expecting. I guess the whole “you can talk about stuff you’re not an expert in, but I’m gonna tell you why you shouldn’t” “trust the experts, even though I admit the experts aren’t trustworthy” routine really resonated with y’all.
5 months ago | 78
Murray's argument from authority was just pompous windbaggery
5 months ago | 20
Douglas was the only one who knew what he was talking about
5 months ago | 7
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Who won the debate on Rogan?
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