Agree with u alot. I also had alot problems with debate dawah myself. In many cases it’s getting out of hand. But just like u I’m not trying to belittle it as it helped alot too. In my opinion islam is best received when it ls shown through character. I have seen that many non muslim who convert or respect Islam because of the character shown by our brothers and sisters. Just like how at the time of prophet Mohammad (SM) they accepted Islam because they knew what a great of human Mohammad sm was. May Allah make ur life and dawah journey easy for you and Ur doing great
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I understand, and I actually really respect your approach. Even though I’m not very knowledgeable about islam, I like the sincerity and calmness in how you express your thoughts. It’s rare to see someone so mindful about speaking only with truth and humility — may Allah reward you for that intention.
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"When one asks, you respond; when one refutes, you clarify; when one is not willing to accept it, you withdraw from the conversation to prevent a debate." Allahu a'lam.
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Alsalamu alikum akhi, I agree with the following: 1. Debates should be for people of knowledge 2. Dawah is about discussions mostly and not debates 3. Debates shouldn’t turn to useless arguments and insults, but should adhere to mannerisms But keep in mind, sometimes there needs to be debates by people of knowledge publicly to some enemies of islam that spread hate. Ignoring these evil people is good, but sometimes ignoring too much may be ineffective. The scholars above - wa Allahu a’alam - were mostly referring to lay people debating, and many of them had debates of people of falsehood themselves. And if you look at the Quran it has verses that show debates. For example look at when Ibrahim debated Namrud or when he debated his people, or when Allah commands us to discuss with the people of the book in a good manner (except the wrongdoers and evil islam attackers, we shouldn’t discuss with them in a good manner as it says in the ayah). Jazaak Allah Khair akhi :)
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There is balance needed. A culture of no debate brings occupation and blind following people who are not worthy of titles, let alone title. Debating for the sake of debates also weakens topic at hand.
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I agree with your way of seeing it People nowadays are just keen to answer back as Quick as possible rather than slow down and have a proper debate.. may Allah guide us all ameen
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More or less you are correct and it echos mostly what I stated specifically about debates especially needless pointless ones etc
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Very wise words brother. I pray that you are one of those included in this ayah. يُؤْتِي الْحِكْمَةَ مَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَمَن يُؤْتَ الْحِكْمَةَ فَقَدْ أُوتِيَ خَيْرًا كَثِيرًا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّا أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ ﴿٢٦٩ البقرة﴾
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You r absolutely right.An uninformed person does a great disservice to islam when he or she debates about it with other uninformed people, muslim or otherwise.
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Thanks for clarifying. Debates for intellectual reasons, expanding the body of knowledge, and for uncovering the truth are commendable and praiseworthy, with its etiquette observed. The problem is debates become unproductive, even destructive, when they involve unqualified persons, people with agenda, and those who are not open to change. They unfortunately disintegrate into shouting matches and personal attacks, among other things.
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wa alaykum salam from a brother on the oposite side of the planet morocco :) debating is not necessary to convey the message in most cases ,you have the truth ? so you just convey it ,you don't have to always debate except in some few cases ,like what moses peace be upon him had to do with pheron (but that was a quick debate hahaha xD) ,but generaly the messangers used to convey and explain to people the message with no debates just convey show the proves so who want to follow let him get in and who dosen't then it's up to him you've had convey the message ,but basicly some times you have to debate if you're knowledgable and if it will bring more benefits for the folowers of the debated person more then just telling them simple data and proves ,some people just like to folow the winners so like that's one of the reasons why moses debated pheron since it was their leader if he loses normaly in front of his people he will have now to belive and so should his people. it wasn't just a debate for the sake of seeing who will win it ,but it was to show people that pheron was on nothing so once they saw the miricales and proves ,and that the sorceres alll belived ,now the people of pheron should've belived normaly ,just like what happend with ashab alukhdud (the people of that ghulam wich were all burn in fire just because they belived in the Only one God) it was because of a debate that they all belived ,but sadly for the people of pheron they rejected the truth ,the message and the messangers of Alah subhnahu wa ta^ala and alahu a^elam
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No worries brother, we understand how nuanced your take is, and how nuanced debating actually is. We appreciate your opinions whether it's agreeable or not, please don't be disheartened! Keep making your videos!
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Here's a perspective: debate (in a good manner with a moderator and sets of rules) is a modern and peaceful way to defend ourselves and our aqeeda. For example, in Indonesia, Christian Missionaries are running covertly, using everything they can think of to convert uneducated muslims, particularly using verses from the Qur'an and Hadiths that they cut out of context and even twisted. A few of our da'i from several revert centers invited Christian priests and pastors to debate (under the expenses of the revert centres) solely to fortify our aqeeda so that uneducated muslims can be educated about Islam and Christianity. We gained many reverts as a result (a great baraqah). So I think debate is great as long as it is conducted in a proper manner with sets of rules.
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May Allah bless you. Dawah ≠ debating. Proper dawah is always good, debating is playing with fire - it has its place but you have to know what you're doing and that the environment isn't flammable. Many people are trying to cook in (rather than on) flammable gas.
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The most powerful tool against hecklers is rhetoric. It kills debate and inspires reflection.
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The Muslim Minority of Japan
Assalamu Alaykum! On my last video I said, "I think debate culture has been one of the worst things to happen to Muslims in modern times."
I made a mistake.
I said, "I think"
Actually this is incorrect. To be fair, I don't really have an opinion or a lot of emotion invested in this topic. "My" opinion is wholly informed by what the Scholars have said.
Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafi' and Imam Ahmad think that lay people should not engage in debating, and that it should be reserved for the Scholars.
. . .and just to make sure that I cover all my bases:
Both Imam Ghazali AND Imam Ibn Taymiyyah also said that lay Muslims should not be engaging in debating and that it should be left to Scholars.
I don't really have my own opinion on this. To be honest, if even one of the above 6 said that laypeople should not debate then I wouldn't debate. (It's kind of ironic that this topic itself is on the verge of becoming a debate, haha.)
So anyways, please forgive me for coming across as rude if I do not respond to comments on this topic. It's not that I don't value your input I just am really committed to not debating. It scares me to be honest. What if I say something about the Deen that is untrue?
So, instead of us having a debate about debating, please go to your local masjid, ask the Imam what madhab he follows and then ask them what the madhab says about debating. Please direct your conversation to people that are more knowledgeable than me. I am wholly unqualified to be engaging in any debates about anything related to the Deen.
And if the Imam tells you something that clarifies a point and you believe that I am incorrect and wrong about my stance, then please inform me. I am 100% open to learning from people who actually have knowledge.
Truly though, it was not my intention to belittle any of the Dawah work that brothers are doing around the world. Every engagement is not debate, and I understand the difference between debate and answering the questions of sincere Truth-Seekers.
Have a blessed weekend.
Assalamu alaykum!
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