I mean Nintendo holds so much nostalgia for many people, when the old president passed away, Nintendo’s entire business focus changed from making games that are fun to making as much money as possible. So it makes sense the community is so divided. There’s a group of people who wish Nintendo was the old Nintendo, and the other group of people that are mad that Nintendo keeps pushing low effort/ max profit projects. But you’re entirely allowed to have an opinion along that scale. At the end of the day, you can’t please everyone. Haters gonna hate.
5 months ago
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You are surely making a new video on the switch 2's failed announcement no?
4 months ago
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I didn't mind the video. Some Nintendo fans just have this attitude where they act as though nobody possibly could have liked the Wii U (even though half of the Switch's first party exclusives consists of either Wii U ports or insubstantial sequels, but that's beside the point). I think that's what makes criticizing the Switch such a touchy subject. Nintendo lacks the quirkiness of previous console generations, and I am glad someone is willing to point that out. We see this in the directs. They used to have silly sketches, but now, it is a rapid fire of admittedly underwhelming announcements. We see this in the design of the Switch 2. It's a sleek, safe design. I have become rather disillusioned with Nintendo in the past few years. When Metroid Dread released, I realized I probably could have bought a Switch at that point and I wouldn't have missed out on too much, as far as exclusives go. I don't see myself buying a Switch 2 at launch if its going to play it safe and be a more powerful Switch. I got a Wii U at launch. I got a Switch a few months after launch. I can wait for a Switch 2.
5 months ago
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I took away a kindred appreciation for & frustration with Nintendo in the video - not completely aligned on all points but a lot struck me. Thought you delivered good rationales & nuance. Nintendo’s in a different place, with stuff to look forward to with the Switch 2 - AND the landscape has greatly changed, the company’s approach has pivoted. There’s room to lament the changes.
5 months ago
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I definitely felt that while reading the comments. While I didn't see eye to eye with some of your opinions, specifically about the Switch since it's release, I can see how you felt that way. I probably would have felt that way if I hadn't played it first-hand at a friend's house when Smash came out. That was what got me to stop being pessimistic, so of course an early experience like that can shift my views. But like I mentioned at the start, idk why people came out so hostile. You shared a completely valid experience with a story that explained why you felt that way. That's all people deserve really, so I hope it doesn't discourage you in the future to talk about your thoughts. It's interesting hearing perspectives that are similar (as I also Love the Wii U) yet different because of our feelings when the Switch came out.
5 months ago
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I think the video was good and I agreed with all of your points. I wish it didn't lead to many polarizing arguments but that's what happens when you dare to have a nuanced take on Nintendo during the switch era. Funny thing is, you really weren't picking a side, from what I can tell. You equally represented both sides of the Nintendo fandom I'm still very cautiously optimistic towards this new era we are heading towards, though all I personally want is the Wii U era soul back.
5 months ago (edited)
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I can understand people who still like Nintendo (overall I still like their game design) but if anyone actually said they're at their best and thinking otherwise is nostalgia they're actually nuts. There's been a few dubious entries in their most popular franchises, while there have also been some of the best and riskiest entries as well. They're taking a lot of good decisions but they've also been unable to apologize for the Switch drift stick, they're still too strict with romhacks and fangames in the dumbest ways. There's good and there's bad, there's no denying that, and whether you support or boycott them is pretty subjective. But if anyone actually thinks they're at their best they're most likely under 15 and have been introduced to Nintendo through BOTW/TOTK and love it because of how much it reminds them of Minecraft.
5 months ago | 3
I guess the point of the video is to encourage discussion while giving your viewpoint but its really not that serious. I wish people wouldnt be so torch and pitchforky with their opinions and just say "I disagree with this point 😊" and maybe provide a small explanation and thats it. Please dont be discouraged, I think your videos are really cool and have some interesting viewpoints!!
5 months ago
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I hope that my response didn't contribute to that mindset too much. When I read the comments before posting mine, I was kind of frustrated with them myself because a lot of them looked at your video that clearly had a lot of thought put into it just to find one thing to get mad about and then post a zinger for easy likes. I definitely admit that my initial comment was a little bit snarky, but my intention with it remains the same; to try and offer a perspective that challenged a lot of the viewpoints in a way that could further the discussion in a constructive way. When I'm passionate about a subject, I try my best to explain myself as thoroughly as possible, provided the conversation invites it. But in this day and age where attention spans are so minimal and tensions keep increasing within individuals, it's unfortunately a lot easier to just make a response that's really surface level and perpetuates negative stereotypes, especially when it involves a company that has a huge demographic of children. That just becomes more common the more people your message reaches, and it's best to just respond to people that are willing to meet you halfway.
5 months ago
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I love Nintendo for what it is but I kind of put it in a category like Disney: it has some die hard fans who do not want their childhood touched or commentated. I think your video was solid. Maybe I didn't agree with everything but I didn't find anything you be so egregious it didn't sully the point you were trying to make. Personally, I'm not as hyped for the Switch 2 because I barely use the Switch outside of a fee core titles and never use it handheld. I think I see it more "gimmicky" than useful (though in 2017 I was so HYPED and loved the possibility). Its similar to how I view the PS5's haptic triggers. They're neat to me, but I dont find myself missing it if a game excludes the feature. What I hope is Nintendo grows without shrinking as much. If they keep their virtual console experience, don't reduce the library. Don't focus so much on ports and give us more, new experiences. Give some love to lesser acknowledged titles and make them good, beefy additions. I loved both BotW and TotK but I hope they learn enough from Echoes of Wisdom that we don't need a massive open world with tiny little things to find all the time
5 months ago
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Just watched your video and there is nothing wrong with it. Like you said there are two polarizing groups of people in the discussion. My biggest gripe is with the Nintendo positivity crowd though. I feel they just can't accept criticism or any ounce of negativity because they want to justify that they are "right" for being a Nintendo fan or something. After looking at the comments I see things like, "Oh we don't know what it will be like yet" or "you just miss marketing" but all of the concerns you brought up in your video make complete sense. On top of that you made a nuanced argument discussing the positives for Nintendo so I don't think you were just being a hater either. For me personally this is how I feel about the Switch 2.... I'm excited for it, but I have lost faith in Nintendo games being the "best". What I mean by that is this... I think TotK and Pikmin 4 are good games, but I feel like there are many glaring flaws to them. This is hard to explain, but generally I feel like indie games are filling the void that Nintendo games used to give me. I feel Nintendo was at its best when they were doing the following things with their games: - Innovating and perfecting at the same time - Making their games accessible, but still challenging and fulfilling to veterans With all this said this doesn't really make me that excited for the next mainline Nintendo games. However, I prefer playing on a Switch over computer and if the Switch 2 is close enough to the Steam Deck in quality then I probably get a Switch 2 before a Steam Deck. Anyway, that second paragraph was kinda jumbled an not explained the best... but hopefully it made sense to someone. In short I'm just saying TotK and Pikmin 4 broke me. They made me realize that Nintendo isn't really make games for me anymore but is still using the same IP name for it (which is disappointing).
5 months ago
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I thought it was a great discussion. Well structured, presented context. I said this in my comment for your video but your honesty is refreshing and I thought you presented clear well-founded points to back up your analysis. Nintendo fans have become very defensive over the years. It clearly showed when PalWorld released, the Pokemon mob came after that game. When Astro Bot released, the Mario mob came after that game. Both groups claiming they copied and therefore, it's overrated and doesn't deserve credit. IGN gives Mario & Luigi: Brothership a 5 (which I thought was a fair and reasonable review despite my feelings about IGN), they came after them. So you're not alone and you're not at fault. Continue to do you and I look forward to your future content.
5 months ago (edited)
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You’re overthinking it, man. Your video was great, and it spoke for itself. If you truly believe what you said, there’s no need to over-explain or justify it to everyone. People will always have polarized opinions, but that doesn’t mean you have to carry the weight of their reactions. Keep doing your thing.
5 months ago
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I think that ultimately as you probably know Nintendo IS In a polarizing spot at the moment which is probably why you are getting equally polarizing comments. That said, I'm going to guess maybe you could have as you said maybe not led the video with a negative snarky attitude, or maybe emphasize on the video title That the aim of the video was to be a more nuanced/balanced take on what Nintendos current status and/or emphasizing both excitement and skepticism
5 months ago (edited) | 2
If you look into any company/ corporation that you like, there will be some dirt. I just pay attention to the games the developers make as they have little say in how the company is actually run/ anything to do with shady dealings. Much like a music band that one member did any number for things wrong, do you stop listening to their music?
5 months ago
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@georgwilliamfriedrichhegel5744
You're video was good. The folks who are spending time having big emotions about game consoles are the weird ones.
5 months ago
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wizawhat
Welp, it appears as though my new video didn't land quite like I hoped it would!
I've spent the past couple of days really mulling over what went wrong. Frankly, a lot of the response I find pretty frustrating, but it is what it is. All I can really do is take the feedback in stride and consider which aspects I have control over and can learn from.
For anyone reading this that hasn't watched it, my idea was to present an honest account of how my view of Nintendo has changed since my big ol' critical video a few years back through the lens of the Switch 2 announcement. I'm actually much more excited now about the idea of a sequel console to the Switch, provided it can preserve what the Switch does so well while fixing a lot of its core issues. With the goal of sharing that point of view with the audience that connected with the ideas in my previous video, I'm confident I explained myself well enough, but not before presenting the topic with a more negative and snarky slant.
One thing that has become frustrating about talking about Nintendo is that the response is often so polarized. Obviously I've played a role in that, but that's why I wanted to use this video as an opportunity to improve and provide a more nuanced perspective that expressed my initial disappointment, followed by a great deal of excitement and a hunger for more. And yet, common responses I've received on both videos and throughout the community are along the lines of "Nintendo is the best its ever been, and anyone who doesn't see that is nostalgia blind and nuts." or, "Nintendo's greed is out of control. They're completely dead to me." That's just not how I think. While my most popular video ever is incredibly critical, even with some faulty arguments, I've also spoken at length about aspects of this generation I think are great, with plans to do more in the future! Thinking that Nintendo should completely reverse course has simply never been how I truly feel, even at the peak of my own disappointment, and I'm confident my video conveyed that.
Clearly there's a ton of resentment flying around between both sides of this debate, and perhaps my mistake was not properly predicting who I was speaking to - Nintendo fans that are abundantly excited for Nintendo to keep the train rolling. If you've ever been frustrated by other creators having to over explain things or make a bunch of disclaimers, situations like there are why I think that often happens. I either need to be more careful in the future, or simply feel more comfortable with harsh disagreements or things getting misinterpreted. This wasn't a great experience, but I'm not going to let it dissuade me from doing my thing.
If you liked the video, I appreciate ya. And if you're a hater reading this - sugondeez
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