Just speaking for myself but testing positive for PEDs that many times rules him out of the GOAT conversation completely for me.
3 months ago | 2,300
There are a lot of people I could see an argument for being the GOAT. John tested positive for PEDs multiple times, has eye poked in almost every fight he has ever been in, and only has accepted favorable matchups. The second he was offered a fight where he was the older fighter with a dangerous top prospect, he ran away (both from Ngannou and Aspinal). There is no argument for Jon as the GOAT anymore and anyone who thinks there is is just looking at the record and nothing else
3 months ago (edited) | 1,100
Chael Sonnen is the GOAT, for those who donât watch the sport. The man was undefeated, came from the hard streets of Oregon.
3 months ago | 273
Calling Jon undefeated is crazy. Everyone knows he lost to Reyes
3 months ago | 505
Highest failed drug tests and eye pokes counts you out of being the GOAT
3 months ago | 289
There is no sport in the world where you can consistently cheat for your whole career and retire as the GOAT. Itâs Mighty Mouse, Khabib, or GSP for me.
3 months ago | 202
Greatest ârecordâ of all time â Greatest âfighterâ of all time â
3 months ago | 11
Jon is NOT the GOAT and never was the GOAT to begin with. Cheaters are not worthy of GOAT status. Only CLEAN fighters can be GOATs. Reyes beat Jones. Tom annihilates Jones. GSP is the GOAT of MMA. ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. ALWAYS WILL BE.
3 months ago | 6
Mma has the most difficult âgoatâ discussion because you can have goats in all different weight classes and can never fully determine who the best was, personally I think Anderson was what changed mma the most being he was the first âcompleteâ fighter but realistically you can make an argument for literally anyone
3 months ago | 5
At best he was the goat of the light-heavyweight division. His double champ status is all trickery and lies he didnât actually earn it like other double weightclass champs. Idk man imo he was never better than DC. Despite the two wins.
3 months ago | 1
By my count Jon lost 5 fights. Matt Hamill (canât follow the rules? DQ) Gustafson beat the breaks off of him. He could not fight DC without steroids in his system thatâs two losses. And everyone knows Reyes beat him in their fight. Bro is FAR from undefeated. The only person to have any kind of noteworthy career who retired undefeated is Khabib.
3 months ago | 1
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Jon Jones just retired.
Is he the GOAT?
3 months ago | [YT] | 2,356