We need more analysis on this combo. Thank you! I would also think this person wouldn’t give a crap what anyone else thinks of them (ASPD) BUT for the few people they attach to (BPD). Maybe if their “favorite person” rejects them, they would have all the BPD responses but through the lens that their person clearly has it all wrong, faulting them for it (ASPD).
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Cluster B. My OG caregiver has BPD diagnosed-and then ASPD much later. She shared it I think to secure more victim excuses for poor behaviors like with the BPD. Now I can sharply see through the ASPD. Wow. How sad. There’s no responsibility and I’m feeling foolish but at least you and us are aware. Thanks for the post! Namaste. 🙏🏼 If there’s anymore insight into this please do share! I’m tire
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I appreciate the breakdown of these aspects and how they apply to someone with both conditions, thanks for helping us understand ClusterB!
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The true self is buried underneath all the trauma, all the dark emotions have to be felt, express and released and even then the cognitive dissonance has to be dealt with, when the inner child is found it’s like small embers that must be encouraged to emerged, once the true self emerges, that’s an ego death, that’s a whole fucking crazy thing, letting go of a whole life and dealing with the shame and fear then the super ego can find back online and create a healthy ego for the child, as now the child is integrated Shaming the release of dark emotions is one of the biggest barriers for healing Anger and deep sadness, guilt, fear, all things npc’s gaslight when seeing it in ordinary life “What’s wrong” They think they are being nice some of them but the scared child internalises that this process is wrong so they don’t do it and get locked into an ego structure that stuffs that shit down, thus they have no empathy for others cause they don’t feel how they even feel, living in mental and physical existence, the body is the mind This is why the process described above must be undertaken for them to heal and become a true self
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This gives hope because the fact that there’s so much overlap means logically that the perception of “no emotions” is a fallacy they’re there just not accessible without help here’s what I mean BPD is emotions on steroids mix that with ASPD and you got someone who can feel and like you said guilt can be felt by people that have more emotional access BPD gives that type of access of course there’s other factors at play but this is very positive with the proper understanding many changes are possible Although accessing emotions long buried can be a wild ride to say it mildly but the brain definitely would retain them meaning the emotions that used to be there it really is a matter of unlocking them in some cases not all of course this break down offers a lot of flexibility in understanding mental illness and helping people with it it’s not a rigid black and white subject as many professionals believe it to be 👍
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That's exactly what I'm in and I know it's rare SHE even says it.Extremely volatile the first 6 years but here we are 13 years later and we're happily together.We ironed each other differences out through fighting and ultimately finding a peace that we both never knew existed.Thank you for all your great content ❤️
3 months ago
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I honestly thot i only had bpd but the more I look into it the more I realise im prob a wee mix I swing between cold detachment and excessive emotions - more rage tho than crying - I barely cry unless it’s a hallmark Xmas movie 😹 but I can turn it on and off, sometimes my bpd gets triggered then I’m aloof and detached - it’s prob more Comorbid with narcissim tho - I was honest with my psych that apart from drinking myself 😵my ego was too big to go to far - I still feel a bit of remorse and shame but I’m good at turning them off to - cluster b’s the mental chess game of emotions
3 months ago
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I have spent years trying to understand my ex. HG Tudor with his little velvet opera cloak he was not but he was, with the greatest respect, bat shit crazy but I loved him. Thanks, this might be the answer. He was a hurricane.
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These people sound so exhausting, like my ex-boyfriend. Just throw his addictions on top for the cherry to complete the nutty sundae that he is. WAY TOO MUCH WORK TO DEAL WITH....SAD BUT TRUE!
3 months ago
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cLuStEr B MiLkShAkE
Someone with both Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) can be complex, intense, and often misunderstood. The overlap can create a uniquely volatile psychological profile, but also one that—when understood and approached with compassion—can transform into deep insight and resilience.
Here’s how the combination often shows up, keeping in mind that people are individuals, not walking diagnoses:
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🔥 Emotional Landscape: Turbulent, but Controlled… Until It’s Not
• BPD: Emotions are intense and rapidly shifting, with deep fear of abandonment.
• ASPD: Emotions are blunted or suppressed, often rationalized or manipulated for survival or gain.
Together: The person may feel emotions intensely but also suppress or weaponize them. They might alternate between emotional outbursts and calculated coldness. They could feel too much, then shut it off like a switch. There’s often deep inner chaos hidden under a controlled exterior.
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🧠 Interpersonal Style: Push-Pull Meets Predatory Precision
• BPD: Craves closeness but fears rejection, leading to clinginess or splitting (idealizing then devaluing).
• ASPD: Sees others as tools or threats; manipulation and charm are often used to maintain control.
Together: This person might love-bomb you, then ghost you—not out of confusion, but strategy. They may mirror others intensely to form connections, only to later use those insights to gain leverage or distance. Relationships feel like war zones where connection and control are both goals.
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🚨 Impulsivity & Risk-Taking: Reckless with a Mission
• BPD: Impulsive behaviors (spending, sex, substance abuse) often stem from emotional distress.
• ASPD: Impulsivity is thrill-seeking, rule-breaking, or opportunistic.
Together: Expect high-risk behaviors that serve both emotional relief and personal gain—like robbing a bank after a breakup, then blaming the system. There’s usually a story to justify every fire they light.
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🧩 Self-Image: Fragmented but Masked
• BPD: Unstable sense of self, swings between extremes (“I’m nothing” vs “I’m everything”).
• ASPD: Inflated or indifferent self-image; may not care how others see them unless it benefits them.
Together: The person might feel like a hollow shell inside, covering it with grandiosity or faux confidence. They might act like they don’t care, but they do—deeply—just not in the ways you’d expect. Validation may be craved and rejected in the same breath.
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😈 Conscience and Morality: A Complicated Code
• BPD: Often experiences guilt or shame intensely, even for small things.
• ASPD: Lack of remorse or empathy, especially if it doesn’t serve them.
Together: They may feel guilt about how they hurt you, not that they did. There might be moments of regret—but often short-lived, intellectualized, or overshadowed by survival needs or rage. Moral codes are fluid and self-serving, but emotional undercurrents can still provoke internal conflict.
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🌪️ In a Relationship:
Imagine falling in love with a hurricane that cries while it destroys your house—then convinces you it’s your fault the roof blew off. That’s what being with someone with co-occurring ASPD and BPD can feel like—for them and for others.
They may:
• Want to be saved but sabotage every attempt.
• Punish you for not reading their mind while refusing to admit they want your help.
• Flip between seductive vulnerability and terrifying detachment.
Aren’t all these different combinations fun? 🎉 #NotANarcissist #bpd #aspd
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