Lelouch, he was willing to get his hands dirty from the start and do the things that needed to be done even if he hated doing them while Suzaku is your average neoliberal voter
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At the base of all change is a man with power that put it to use. In essence, Might makes Right. Note, might does NOT make moral. Just because you have power doesn’t make you a good person. But power is the root of every action.
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Both, with Lelouch attacking Britannia and leading the fight and Suzaku and Euphie making a government framework favouring Japan using the leverage Lelouch buys them. Lelouch is needed to cause change and Euphie is needed to prevent it from destroying instead of saving Japan. Like I said, Lelouch alone would have succeeded, but without actually improving the underlying philosophies behind the conflict.
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I look at the world, and I see so much misery brought about by the blind careless need for action. I totally understand Suzaku’s methods don’t achieve anything. But I can relate to his desire to stop suffering and death, a lot more than I can relate to Lelouch’s “win no matter the cost” mentality. The world is inherently unfair. Power defeats ideals, and the cycle of violence and hatred never stops. What the world needs is more people who are willing to stop the cycle. The end of Code Geass is awesome, but it does nothing in the real world.
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Lelouch was right, hell even Suzaku admits it by the end, and in r3 ohgi does as well
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There's a reason to have good people in the system. But not all changes can come from within the system.
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I think Lelouch edges out as we see him learn of his methods short comings and in the end willingly takes the cost onto himself. His philosophy alone though isn’t right though taken to such extremes. Like all things it’s not black and white but shades of grey.
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i dont hate suzaku as such, but hes naive and complicit in the subjugation he claims to want to fight. freedom is never given by asking nicely, and the goalpost for a ‚good honorary britanian’ is vague and can be shifted however the empire finds convenient. liberals always capitulate to empire.
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Also personal recommendation for a video is expedition 33‚ i think you will really like this game and its philosophy at the end of the game.
2 weeks ago | 0
I did vote Lelouch but think the question is too judgemental since "right" is subjective; In this context I vote base on the story itself, since Suzaku method provide no result at least not without Lelouch's influence. If he didn't get lucky he might die very early on, albeit the same can be said to Lelouch vs Cornelia but C.C. is already a factor by then too. That being said I am not too sure if Lelouch haven't met C.C. when will he choose to rebel againts Britania.
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Life doesn't wait for us to do things‚ it just happens and we must act when it happens.
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The story is mostly about Lelouch, the person with the superpower. There's not really much Suzaku is able to do to influence the story. Lelouch is never right in this story. If we can accept his methodology is right because he is effective, we can justify everything that's ever happened as morally right because it led to the outcome that happened. Lelouch forced his will onto others through fear violence and his ability, and thus has no high ground over the status quo which did the same. He also forced someone to slaughter innocents. In reality these kinds of uprisings often destroy both physical and social structures faster than they can be replaced, leading to suffering that can be avoided by proven peaceful transfers of power. You don't get a good glimpse at the impact his revolution made on society from the show since it's a brief and narrow view and he pretty much flees what he's made at the end.
2 weeks ago | 0
This poll seriously lacks the "neither" option... In all honesty, though, as excellent as the core conflict of CG - and your breakdown of it - is, it has one glaring flaw that kind of retroactively invalidates Suzaku's side of the argument - the Ragnarok Connection. Suzaku's idea of change is a slow working one, but it could conceivably bring benefits a few generations down the line. However, that's contingent on those future generations existing in the first place. It's hard to justify a solution that takes a long time to take effect when the world is in danger right now.
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The ending shows that it was the ideology of both combined that gave results.
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Well, you've seen my take on Code Geass, so let's see yours and if it's changed: who was right?
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