Voddie Bauchum as well as other famous Calvinist preachers in the Western Christian sphere said “All the Gospel requires is repentance and faith (ie not obedience which he stated). The Gospel doesn’t require obedience, the Gospel produces obedience.”
Many famous preachers today say this. That obedience is the fruit of our faith. This is partially true however let’s address his claim.
Does the Gospel produces obedience? It can. Yet why does Voddie and Calvinists like MacArthur, Sprole, Washer, etc also say we will always continue to sin? I agree that we will never be perfect in this life. But to say the Gospel produces obedience isn’t true.
The Gospel produces the DESIRE to obey God. However, you can reject that desire. This is why you have to be careful of your theology. These guys don’t believe you have free will. So they assume God makes you obey Him once born again. So then whose fault is it if you sin after being made new in Christ? They’ll never say God but if they’re truly honest with their reformed theology they have to admit it’s also God.
Jesus says in Mat 7:21 only those who do the will of the Father enter heaven. The HS gives us new desires and convictions after coming to belief in Jesus, true saving belief, but that doesn’t mean you will act on those desires and convictions. You have to cooperate with the HS by choosing to resist temptations in those many moments you will have, which isn’t God resisting but you. It’s Him HELPING but not DOING it for you. See the difference between the true faith and the false reformed faith?
The early church believed we have free will. They didn’t believe it was God’s fault if we obey Him or disobey Him.
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Voddie Bauchum as well as other famous Calvinist preachers in the Western Christian sphere said “All the Gospel requires is repentance and faith (ie not obedience which he stated). The Gospel doesn’t require obedience, the Gospel produces obedience.”
Many famous preachers today say this. That obedience is the fruit of our faith. This is partially true however let’s address his claim.
Does the Gospel produces obedience? It can. Yet why does Voddie and Calvinists like MacArthur, Sprole, Washer, etc also say we will always continue to sin? I agree that we will never be perfect in this life. But to say the Gospel produces obedience isn’t true.
The Gospel produces the DESIRE to obey God. However, you can reject that desire. This is why you have to be careful of your theology. These guys don’t believe you have free will. So they assume God makes you obey Him once born again. So then whose fault is it if you sin after being made new in Christ? They’ll never say God but if they’re truly honest with their reformed theology they have to admit it’s also God.
Jesus says in Mat 7:21 only those who do the will of the Father enter heaven. The HS gives us new desires and convictions after coming to belief in Jesus, true saving belief, but that doesn’t mean you will act on those desires and convictions. You have to cooperate with the HS by choosing to resist temptations in those many moments you will have, which isn’t God resisting but you. It’s Him HELPING but not DOING it for you. See the difference between the true faith and the false reformed faith?
The early church believed we have free will. They didn’t believe it was God’s fault if we obey Him or disobey Him.
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