As a Pole, seeing the showrunners proudly present their new "genius idea" to fix Westeros - elective monarchy - made me facepalm incredibly hard
1 month ago | 183
Presuming grrm told them the official ending, I think their execution may have been botched to the point where it the guy just tossed whatever he had written of it, knowing it's tainted.
1 month ago | 6
My wife and I hardly go two months without randomly recalling that time HBO utterly destroyed one of the greatest accomplishments in pop culture. Like, it took WORK to get that bad of an ending, there were dozens of other ways the show could’ve ended that would’ve also been bad but just like disappointing or a bit of a letdown, not the nuclear wreckage they managed to produce at the cost of millions of dollars. It still amazes me.
1 month ago | 41
Oh. Are we still optimistic enough to believe the book series will be completed? I didn't realise.
1 month ago | 34
For what it's worth, my wife has read the first two and a half books, and never watched the show or paid too much attention to it. When I talked to her after the finale and mentioned that people were surprised who became king, she just straight-up said "It was Bran, wasn't it?" without even blinking. (And no, she's not one to look it up so she can prank me. That was legit.) She's always been very good at story analysis, but that one just floored me. So this shows that a) I married a real smart cookie, but also b) that part of the ending was predictable, if you're switched-on enough to how stories are crafted.
1 month ago | 72
It feels like the GoT got the Roman Empire experience. It's all fun and games at first, then suddenly all anyone remembers you for is falling.
1 month ago | 3
I feel like Bran becoming king is going to make sooo much more sense in the books
1 month ago | 46
1) A significant portion of how the TV ended is impossible based on what happened in the books. 2) An important thing to note is that the issue with seasons 7-8 isn’t the events themselves, but how they were written into the story. ASOIAF is meant to flow organically, based on GRRMs gardening style. Seasons 7-8 were written like an outline, with characters forced into inorganic plot events.
1 month ago | 56
Is it the "real" ending? No. Is it the only ending we're ever going to get? Probably. Sorry, Connington 🤷🏻
1 month ago | 20
it's because the directors didn't care and finished it in a rush so they could do a Star Wars movie, which, thankfully never came to pass.
1 month ago | 8
Tbh, the show was doomed from the start, given that the showrunners ignored or dropped a lot of the magical/social aspects of the show in favour of court intrigue and more SA scenes than there actually were in the books. Moreover, they didn't bother making changes where they honestly should have (like, why are the Dothraki presented as one dimensional barbarians while the Free Folk get a fair amount of nuance outside of turning the Thenns into cannibalistic psychopaths?) or cut subplots that could have led to a far more satisfying ending. That's all the show is to me now and HOTD isn't doing much better; a series of cynical decisions made by a duo who think anything deeper than shock value is for children's book reports.
1 month ago | 16
it was a failure of delivery, not plot. for comparison. arcane didn't have a lot of time to turn jinx into a psycho but they pulled it off very well. same can't be said for daenerys. her shift was jarring.
1 month ago | 17
Honestly the ending just reeks of “Lets subvert every expectation people have even if it dosent make any sense!” Like…Jon is expected to have some hand in the end of the Walkers since hes the main character with most time with them…nope its Aria! Arent you shocked?!
1 month ago | 10
I think the main ideas will play out. But with enough changes in execution it ends up feeling like a different story with very implications. The only thing I think will be completely different is Danny and Agaon Blackfire. I personally think Danny will never leave slavers bay, rather then take back her Tarygarin holdings she takes over the remnants of her Valyarian ancestry and try’s to fix the the remains of their broken empire. And Agaon will end up bringing king, no matter how much Stanis can play the Nobel king his inability to show diplomacy or win the hearts of the people will screw him over massively in the end.
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I have this theory that the reason Winds of Winter is taking so long to come out is because George gave the showrunners his basic notes on how the book would play out and they turned it into season 8. So then George had to basically start from scratch because he was like, “Well hardly any of those major plot points went over well, can’t do those anymore.” Although I highly doubt George would have made some of the decisions that were put into S8. Like having Arya of all people kill the Night King.
1 month ago | 14
The plot points make sense, it was all in the failure of delivery.
1 month ago | 24
For me there is no season 8 of game of thrones. There is no season 8 in ba sing se
1 month ago | 5
I mostly find infamous bad endings eh because Doctor Who gave me immunity to bad endings. Game of Thrones spend so much focus on deconstructing fantasy only to have to rely on what was deconstructed because it had nothing to be reconstructed. It's anti plot amor gimmick was always going to fall apart and is a flawed way to tell a story because someone has to live to tell the tale if a fictional story isn’t going to focus on the afterlife. The reason the Storm Trooper aiming trope exist because if antagonists hits the protagonists, now what? You know that saying ''It's the journey not the destination" when it comes to story endings, that saying should also apply to character deaths. When re watching my favorite Better Call Saul episode Point and Shoot, I realized I loved the episode for how the charters journey ended in that episode instead of character deaths happened.
1 month ago | 5
Good video (nebula). For me I always saw Daenerys as a cautionary tale about how revolutionaries make terrible rulers. We know no one wants her in Westeros, but her view of herself is as a liberator. So how does the revolutionary react when the people they're 'saving' don't want their version of liberation? The cliff notes of this were in the TV show, but like everything else it was poorly executed. I suspect the same progression in the books, but just good 😅
1 month ago | 10
Hello Future Me
The ending to Game of Thrones continues to baffle me. The anticlimactic battle of Winterfell. Bran becoming king. So many strange decisions. Which is why I have a ✨✨✨whole other episode on DECIPHERING THE ENDING TO GAME OF THRONES ✨✨✨ exclusively for patrons and you can listen to it right now. >>> www.patreon.com/c/hellofutureme <<< I talk through how much of S8 is the "real" book ending to come. I can't always turn every amazing show, book, game, thing I come across into a video for the channel, but I can make this! Patreon exclusives let me not worry about a topic's algorithmic performance.
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