In the time of great chaos and you're just a normal person, looking for leaders like Cao Cao, not Yuan Shao. Maybe Sun Quan, but not Liu Bei. The familiarities between Cao Cao and Sun Quan are the ability to discern situations, decisive, and can use the right people for the right jobs. Yuan Shao and Liu Bei got the same problem, which is they favoring their family members too much. Without Zhuge Liang, Liu Bei would be nothing. Yuan Shao would be a great general if he got Cao Cao as his leader, unfortunately he's not cut out to be a decent leader himself.
Of course everyone has their own flaws. Cao Cao is the most obvious one there. But Sun Quan is less known. The problem with Sun Quan was the lack of trust in his subordinates in more serious sense than Cao Cao. Also the fact that great people from Wu died too early compared to Wei and Shu dealt heavy blow to them.
If you want to raise the flag, raise for the genuine great cause. Corrupted warlords in 3K era died tragically because of their greedy nature and incompetence. Cao Cao was actually represented the conservative way, that's why people easily drawn to him. Liu Bei was represented the rebel way, that's why the common people supported him. Sun Quan was represented the established clan, that's why the people stay loyal to him.
There could be better words to describe these great leaders, but in general sense you could take it this way. Why Cao Cao was conservative ? Because he didn't care much about ideal and only focus on his growing authority. The conservative always trying to keep things in their beneficial situations. Like if polices benefit from gangwar, then they wouldn't want the gangwar to end. Just the same as Cao Cao. Chaos gave him the success he needed in life.
Liu Bei tried to fight for the declined Han dynasty, hence the rebel way. Taking it as he's the real Han lineage, it's the right thing to do. But it could be he's an opportunist grifter which took the position of the real one whom "mysteriously disappeared", but this is something which we can't confirm even if we want to. He got the heart of people because of the resentment toward the authoritative figures which Cao Cao assumed the position. But who would be able to deal with such resentment ? Nobody. The problems were too big to deal with by just a few people. But Liu Bei gave those people hope. The beacon of hope in the midst of chaos, it's the way of rebel.
Sun clan was a great clan with dedicated loyal subjects. The clan in this era was started by Sun Jian whom represented the old glory of Sun clan. Then with Sun Jian fallen, the clan was declined. Until Sun Ce reestablished the clan once more with more glory than ever. Unfortunate events stuck and Sun Ce also fallen. Left the clan in the young Sun Quan's hands with Lady Wu as the protector. In movies, there weren't much information about Wu faction, but in reality this was the most prestigious faction of them all.
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Now back to reality.
Who would want to follow the flag of the elites whom causing chaos ? These elites are the same as corrupted warlords in 3K era, which will guaranteed to meet tragic ends since the resentment is high.
Then who would be Cao Cao ? in fact I don't know. Cao Cao before his rising was just another officer in the Han empire. So maybe looking for someone with decent skills and visions. Maybe the attitude and capabilities. Someone whom obviously got skills and charisma to back up their visions, but obscured by the corrupted upper echelons.
What about Sun Quan ? Maybe it's Sun Jian now, someone whom walk in glory. Someone prestigious and honourable. Someone whom not afraid of corrupted elites. Who knows who this person is ? But this person is the prime target once the war started.
Liu Bei ? Despite warning about not following Liu Bei, but still want to. Be my guest then. This person is likely someone whom forgotten by the society but somehow related to the current people in power. This person will likely raising the flag to take back the old way. Maybe the conservative of the capitalism. Maybe someone whom stuck in the capitalistic dream of 80's In the world waking up to the new order, you still fight for the old glory of capitalism. The heart of people might be toward this person, since most people still think capitalism is good.
While these people are not representing all the potential candidates whom will raise the flags during the time of chaos, I still think these people will likely be the prominent factors in the time of chaos.
Don't like the options ? Think about whom would survive during such a time. Whom would take the least risk ?
It's the hidden scholars. These people seek solitude and only focus on the clarity of life. Why let the chaos get to you when you can just walk away ?
Dreaming Acacia
In the time of great chaos and you're just a normal person, looking for leaders like Cao Cao, not Yuan Shao.
Maybe Sun Quan, but not Liu Bei.
The familiarities between Cao Cao and Sun Quan are the ability to discern situations, decisive, and can use the right people for the right jobs.
Yuan Shao and Liu Bei got the same problem, which is they favoring their family members too much. Without Zhuge Liang, Liu Bei would be nothing. Yuan Shao would be a great general if he got Cao Cao as his leader, unfortunately he's not cut out to be a decent leader himself.
Of course everyone has their own flaws. Cao Cao is the most obvious one there.
But Sun Quan is less known. The problem with Sun Quan was the lack of trust in his subordinates in more serious sense than Cao Cao. Also the fact that great people from Wu died too early compared to Wei and Shu dealt heavy blow to them.
If you want to raise the flag, raise for the genuine great cause. Corrupted warlords in 3K era died tragically because of their greedy nature and incompetence.
Cao Cao was actually represented the conservative way, that's why people easily drawn to him.
Liu Bei was represented the rebel way, that's why the common people supported him.
Sun Quan was represented the established clan, that's why the people stay loyal to him.
There could be better words to describe these great leaders, but in general sense you could take it this way.
Why Cao Cao was conservative ?
Because he didn't care much about ideal and only focus on his growing authority. The conservative always trying to keep things in their beneficial situations. Like if polices benefit from gangwar, then they wouldn't want the gangwar to end. Just the same as Cao Cao. Chaos gave him the success he needed in life.
Liu Bei tried to fight for the declined Han dynasty, hence the rebel way.
Taking it as he's the real Han lineage, it's the right thing to do.
But it could be he's an opportunist grifter which took the position of the real one whom "mysteriously disappeared", but this is something which we can't confirm even if we want to.
He got the heart of people because of the resentment toward the authoritative figures which Cao Cao assumed the position.
But who would be able to deal with such resentment ?
Nobody.
The problems were too big to deal with by just a few people. But Liu Bei gave those people hope.
The beacon of hope in the midst of chaos, it's the way of rebel.
Sun clan was a great clan with dedicated loyal subjects.
The clan in this era was started by Sun Jian whom represented the old glory of Sun clan.
Then with Sun Jian fallen, the clan was declined.
Until Sun Ce reestablished the clan once more with more glory than ever.
Unfortunate events stuck and Sun Ce also fallen.
Left the clan in the young Sun Quan's hands with Lady Wu as the protector.
In movies, there weren't much information about Wu faction, but in reality this was the most prestigious faction of them all.
================
Now back to reality.
Who would want to follow the flag of the elites whom causing chaos ?
These elites are the same as corrupted warlords in 3K era, which will guaranteed to meet tragic ends since the resentment is high.
Then who would be Cao Cao ?
in fact I don't know.
Cao Cao before his rising was just another officer in the Han empire.
So maybe looking for someone with decent skills and visions.
Maybe the attitude and capabilities.
Someone whom obviously got skills and charisma to back up their visions, but obscured by the corrupted upper echelons.
What about Sun Quan ?
Maybe it's Sun Jian now, someone whom walk in glory.
Someone prestigious and honourable.
Someone whom not afraid of corrupted elites.
Who knows who this person is ?
But this person is the prime target once the war started.
Liu Bei ?
Despite warning about not following Liu Bei, but still want to. Be my guest then.
This person is likely someone whom forgotten by the society but somehow related to the current people in power.
This person will likely raising the flag to take back the old way.
Maybe the conservative of the capitalism.
Maybe someone whom stuck in the capitalistic dream of 80's
In the world waking up to the new order, you still fight for the old glory of capitalism.
The heart of people might be toward this person, since most people still think capitalism is good.
While these people are not representing all the potential candidates whom will raise the flags during the time of chaos, I still think these people will likely be the prominent factors in the time of chaos.
Don't like the options ?
Think about whom would survive during such a time.
Whom would take the least risk ?
It's the hidden scholars. These people seek solitude and only focus on the clarity of life.
Why let the chaos get to you when you can just walk away ?
Just food for your brain.
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