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ARE FAITH HEALERS PHONY?
By Dan Burley -
September 17, 1953
On a recent hot July night in Chicago, gold-toothed Dr. John E. Watley, pastor of the Houston, Texas, Holy Temple Refuge, was interrupted in the midst of a radio sermon by a woman who rushed into the revival tent carrying crutches under her arm.
"I'm cured! I'm cured!" she shouted. And with the audience echoing "amen," she told how she had been listening to Dr. Watley's "healing prayer" on her radio at home, and that the "spirit had moved" within her, making her put aside her crutches for the first time in years. She said she ran the 10 blocks from her home to the tent church to testify.
Like the Chicago woman, scored of persons all over the U.S. today claim miraculous cures at the hands of faith healers. Yet, although such healing has been performed since Biblical times, skeptics continue to raise the question: "Are faith healers phony?"
Actually, these critical observers find little argument to support their doubts of the age-old custom of faith healing and it's practitioners. For almost always the attendant publicity given to such cures as that of the Chicago woman more than overshadows any attempts to discredit such healers.
Among Negroes today, most faith healers are licensed ministers in the Church Of God In Christ sect, third-largest Negro denomination, which was started a half-century ago by rebellious ex-Baptist.
Famous in the movement is trumpet-playing, 42-year-old Elder Charles David Beck of Buffalo who, besides pastoring flourishing missions in Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detroit and Baltimore, broadcasts on Buffalo's ABC network station WKBW.
Beck gained considerable fame during the 1930s when the late USA Top General John J. Pershing was near death from a complication of diseases and had almost been given up as hopeless. Introducing himself as an "ambassador extraordinary plenipotentiary" (which he said meant "an ambassador from the Kingdom of our Lord, Jesus Christ"), Beck asked permission to pray for the ailing hero.
He prayed and the next morning Gen. Pershing came out of a nine- day coma. Two weeks later he went to Washington, was examined and pronounced in good health. Later Pershing went to Europe and lived eight years longer.
While many whites claim "cures" by Negro "healers," white practitioners have also emerged in recent years and found a following among both Negro and white. In Chicago, for example, Rev. William W. Freeman of Joplin, Mo,. regularly attracts huge crowds at the Coliseum when he conducts his "Freeman Healing Campaigns." Many come to him in wheelchairs, on crutches, or are led by children and seing eye" dogs.
So great is his following today that special police are detailed to handle the crowds at his meetings, and on one occasion he baptized over 500 Negroes in mass ceremonies in Lake Michigan. Perhaps the most widely-publicized instance of faith healing was that attributed to Detroit's Prophet Jones who was recently gifted with a $13,000 mink coat by two Chicago sisters who wanted to show their gratitude for his curing their 70-year-old mother of a goiter. They told newsmen that their mother had been healed by the "Prophet" after following his instructions to visit Gary, Indiana,. and drink water from a fountain at a bus terminal he designated.
Occasionally, a touch of the bizarre is introduced into rites conducted by some faith healers. In Birmingham Alabama., for example, Elder Dwight (Gatemouth) Moore, an ex-blues singer, climbed into a casket as a human "corpse" on one occasion to symbolize the "burying of sin" and attracted an audience that paid $1 a head to get in.
Similarly, in Little Rock, Ark., Rev. T. M. Chambers once conducted an Easter Sunday service with a kennel of howling dogs in the pulpit. These, he said, were symbolic of the dogs that licked the wounds of Lazarus. On another occasion, he applied for but was refused permission to "walk" the Arkansas River.
Whether or not faith healers are endowed with special powers, remains a moot question, defying a satisfactory explanation. But Chicago's COGIC Elder Utah Smith sums it up this wise: "There ain't no mystery about how I heal the people. I just give them the medicine of God and they walk, see and talk and then they go on about their business."
Buffalo, New York's COGIC Elder Charles Beck, prefaces his radio broadcasts with this statement: "I myself, make no personal claims to bless or heal. I am only an intercessor through prayer. God works out the problem.
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The Early Days Of The Church Of God In Christ -
When Bishop Mason returned from the Great State of California after the Azusa revival, he immediately began to preach the concept of speaking in tongues as a New Testament doctrine with such boldness that people from other denominations began to attend his services.
Mason's increasing numbers meant the loss of members in other established denominations and, as a result, opposition soon surfaced. Outraged progressives alleged that Mason fell prey to the heretical doctrine of speaking in tongues because of his lack of theological education.
African Methodist Episcopal Bishop Daniel Payne registered his disdain for the so-called commotion occurring in these religious services when he remembered that he once "requested a pastor stop his congregants from dancing," and informed the pastor, "to sit down and sing rationally," because the way in which they worshiped "was heathenish and disgraceful to themselves and the race."
Opposition grew so great that Mason began receiving death threats, but he stood bolder and firmer, proclaiming, "If you fight this truth, you will die" because he believed he stood for God and His word. In an attempt to escape the constant harassment, his Lexington congregation began worshiping in a "brush harbor" in the woods.
Finding a suitable place in the forest, members cleared an area of brush, tied poles to small trees, and laid branches and weeds atop the makeshift structure to form a roof. They brought planks to be used for seats or placed sawdust on the ground; nevertheless, as church services began, the loud singing made finding Mason and his congregation easy for his opponents.
Congregants became victims of adversaries who threw rotten eggs and who, on occasion, fired gunshots into worship meetings. Even under such conditions, Mason remained undeterred, and while leading his Lexington congregation, he expanded his ministry into Memphis, where residents also viewed the concept of speaking in tongues with the same disdain and suspicion.
Adept at addressing the needs of the poor, Mason conducted his first revivals in Memphis on street corners and later in a tent referred to as his tabernacle. As word of the tent services spread throughout Memphis, the number of attendees grew to well over a hundred within two years. The enlarged membership forced the congregants to purchase a lot at 392 Wellington Street, where his male followers built a wooden structure and named it Saints Home Church of God In Christ.
The Wellington Street congregation flourished as the city's black population continued to provide a steady flow of converts whose testimonies attested to the benefits of membership in the denomination.
By late 1907, however, trouble loomed on the horizon as local newspapers reported that Mason began holding all-night meetings that often ran into the early morning.
The Memphis racist Commercial Appeal published an article titled
"Fanatical Worship of Negroes going on in the Holiness Churches."
that played up stereotypes held by whites about black religious beliefs. The article read:
Some time ago, Rev. Mason had a "visitation of the Holy Spirit" and began to speak the language used by the Spirit. Then the test was applied to the congregation. If the members of his church could not speak and understand such language, they were not sanctified and could not be saved. This gave rise to one of the most remarkable religious fervors that has ever struck even the Negro church.
The pastor pretended to speak the language of the Spirit, and the wise ones of the congregation got onto his curves and began using a strange, idiotic jargon, which was equally meaningless to them and the preacher. As a matter of self-defense, both the minister and the "wise ones" of his congregation pretended to understand each other, and the result was the language of the Spirit, which all "understand" and which is"meaningless" to all.
The minister would exclaim, "Hicks, hicks!" and the congregation would answer back, "Sycamore, sycamore, sycamore!" and such insignificant words, which lifted the congregation to the highest point of ecstasy, showing what has been contended for years, that the Negro's religion is sound instead of sense.
The negative press garnered resentment from the educated black populace of Memphis, as they remained aware that Mason's antics, no matter how foolish some perceived them, directly affected their standing in the city since whites often did not make distinctions when viewing the black population, rather choosing to see them as monolithic.
Therefore, it can be argued that educated black people felt Mason's services threatened progressives' efforts to gain equality in the eyes of whites as they stressed proper dress, respectable behavior, and a refined liturgy.
George Cashwell, a member of Mason's Wellington Street church, authored a letter to the Apostolic Faith, which further revealed the resentment many black Memphians held toward Mason's worship services. Cashwell recalled that he had never been "met with such power of the devil [as in Memphis]."
In the letter, he recounted the story of a man who came to Mason's church during a worship service. So enraged by what he witnessed, the man tried to drag his wife out of the church. The author revealed, "The Glory to God overpowered the man when his wife began to speak in tongues.
"Cashwell concluded that the man was so touched he became a regular attendee of the services. While the testimonial provides valuable insight about Mason's services, it also raises questions about gender. Due to the charismatic nature of Pentecostalism, women became active participants in church services.
Accounts reveal that during Mason's services, both males and females often lay together at the altar in search of the Holy Spirit. So the husband's anger could have been generated by his wife's lying with male members, which, at the time, would have been deemed improper in all other public spaces.
However, the overall use of the altar by women reveals the transformative nature of COGIC, as both pulpits and altars were viewed as sacred and holy places, yet only men occupied them. The fact that Mason allowed women to access the altar in the very same manner as men reveals that COGIC was ahead of its Baptist and Methodist counterparts in how it viewed women's roles in religious services.
Viewed as progressive acts by today's standards, most within the black community would have condemned the actions as scandalous and improper, which further demonized COGIC.
Credit to -
Historian Calvin White Jr.
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Bishop C.H. Mason Preaching at the COGIC Holy Convocation in Year 1926
Short dress pride, low necked pride, men proud over their success over others, lawyers proud over their arguments in sentencing someone for gain, judges proud over their power to send men into custody, men and women proud of their fine homes and automobiles, women proud of their fine homes and automobiles, women proud of their powers of attraction that bewitches a man turning his from his home, his wife and his children; man proud in his wickedness in taking to himself another man's wife, and bringing shame and disgrace to himself and to others; the rich man proud of his ascendency over the poor, having gathered his gain by fraud and keeping back the hire from the poor. National pride brings forth wars and pollutes the land, causing blood to touch blood; all of the characters God will work within storms, earthquakes, and great noise, and with flames of devouring fire.
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I am sad about this loss, this is a tough one... But I am praying for my Spiritual Father and Mother, Bishop and Lady Mae Blake, along with Lawrence Blake's wife, Jeanine Blake, and the entire Blake family. 🙏
Below is the statement given to me to post
The Blake family announces with deep sorrow the passing of our beloved Lawrence Champion Blake, who transitioned on January 27, 2026, after a courageous battle with cancer. He was 54 years old.
Lawrence was a devoted husband, loving father and grandfather, faithful son, and a shepherd after God’s own heart. As senior pastor of Palm Lane Church of God in Christ, he served with humility, compassion, and an unshakable commitment to redemption. Though he endured a season of physical challenge, he faced it with courage and conviction. We believe he transitioned from labor to reward having never yielded to doubt, defeat, or despair, but instead having fought the good fight, finished his course, and kept the faith. His legacy will continue to speak through those he loved and served.
The family invites the public to join us in celebrating Lawrence’s life and ministry at his Homegoing Celebration, to be held on Wednesday, February 11, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. at West Angeles Cathedral, located at 3600 Crenshaw Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90016. A public viewing will take place from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. prior to the service.
During this time of profound loss, the family respectfully requests privacy as we grieve, reflect, and honor Lawrence’s life together.
We are deeply grateful for the prayers, love, and support extended to our family and to the Palm Lane and West Angeles church communities during this difficult time.
— The Blake Family
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I am proud to announce that the Jonathan DesVerney Gospel Channel has partnered up with COGIC Videos!
COGIC Videos is currently owned by the Green family.
The Late, Great General Board member Bishop Samuel Green Jr. is 100 percent responsible and owned all COGIC National video recordings before Presiding Bishop Emeritus Charles. E. Blake Sr. took office in 2007. After Bishop Blake took office, the Church of God in Christ took over filming the Holy Convocation, and later on in the years, all the other National Conventions as well.
All COGIC National Services from the 1970s to 2008 are owned by the Green family. It is because of Bishop Green's vision and money that we have video footage of all our Holy Convocations and National Conventions from the 1970s and up.
The Jonathan DesVerney Gospel Channel is thrilled to partner with COGIC Videos to help promote and remember our COGIC Past!
God Bless the memory of the Late Great Bishop Samuel L. Green Jr.
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Rest In Peace, my friend Bishop Norman Hutchins. Praying for Lady K and the Family
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Church Of God In Christ History
Church Of God In Christ International Music Department Heads
1950 - Present
The Church Of God In Christ and music have always gone hand in hand. Bishop Mason loved Music, and he loved all types of Music. His favorite singer was the Blind Evangelist Arizona Dranes (Mother of Gospel Music), who often sang during the Holy Convocation.
The COGIC Church always had a rich, deep roster of Music Pioneers, Gospel Giants, and Famous Celebrities. Such as Bishop C.P. Jones, Blind Willie Johnson, Two Wings Utah Smith, Elder Charles D. Beck, The Gay Sisters, Madame Earnestine Washington, Marion Williams, Kitty Parham, Ida Baker, The O’Neal Twins, Billy Preston, Mega Superstar Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Global Superstars Andrae and Sandra Crouch, Walter Hawkins and Edwin Hawkins, Tramaine Hawkins, The Clark Sisters, Bishop Rance Allen, Vanessa Bell Armstrong, Rev. James Moore, Douglas Williams, Pop Winans, Rev. Timothy Wright, Kim Burrell, Blinky Williams, Kierra Sheard, Jonathan McReynolds, Lizzo, Missy Elliot, Pharrell Williams, Michelle Williams, Teddy Riley, Sylvester, Ronnie Dyson, Kurt Carr, Daryl Coley, Pastor Donnie McClurkin, Benny Cummings, Lashun Pace, The Anointed Pace Sisters, Deleon Richards Sheffield, Mary Mary, J. Moss, Micah Stampley, Ricky Dillard, Kelly Price, Bishop G.E. Patterson, Dr. Bettye Nelson, Evangelist Goldia Haynes, Supervisor Rubenstein McClure, Yvette Flunder, Sara Jordan Powell, Myrna Summers, Thomas Whitfield, Deniece Williams, Bishop Paul S. Morton, Tamela Mann, Earnest Pugh, Jabari Johnson, Dr. Vernard Johnson (saxophonist), Corey Henry (Organ), Detroit Gary Wiggins, The Nevel Sisters, Rose Marie Rimson-Brown, Dr. Holly Carter, Dr. Mattie Moss Clark, Dr. Judith McAllister, Dr. Myron Williams, Dr. Juanita Bynum, Chrystal Rucker, Joe Tex, Bishop Norman Hutchins, Stevie Wonder, Natalie Cole, Penny Ford, Charlie Wilson, David Daughtry, Markita Knight, Chrystal Aikin, Evangelist Ruby Terry, Evangelist Carol Thomas, Bishop Carlton Pearson, Mother Vernon Oliver Price, Evangelist Frances Kelley, Patrick Henderson, Elder James Lenox, Keith Pringle, Shelby 5, Audrey DuBois Harris, Bishop Frank A. White Etc.
1949/1950 - Present Day
Lady Deborah Mason Patterson -
One of the daughters of Bishop Mason and wife to Presiding Bishop J.O. Patterson Sr., Mason's daughter was a pioneer of the COGIC Music Department along with Sister Mattie Wiggley and Sister Jesse Jimerson. During this period, Deborah Mason Patterson, Anna Broy Crockett Ford, and Bishop C.T. James were the three heads of the National Choir.
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Bishop C.T. James - 1951 to 1955
In 1951, Bishop Mason appointed Elder C.T. James to serve as the first National Director of Music. He later became Director of the National Chorus under Anna B. Crockett Ford. At his height, he had over 1 million radio listeners until his demise in the early '60s. (For some reason, his name was erased from the history of the COGIC Music Department; not many today have heard of him, and most would disagree with me on him ever being the National Director of Music, but my information comes from the COGIC Whole Truth and newspaper articles which have confirmed him to at one point being the first National Director of the COGIC Music Department).
Anna Crockett Ford - 1955 to 1968/1972
- Bishop Mason appointed Mother Ford as the National Music Department President in 1955. She served in that position until 1968/72. She is a singer and songwriter. One of her works is the standard "I Was Glad When They Said Unto Me. (Dr. Ford doesn't get enough credit for being a powerful pioneer in the COGIC Music Department. Instead of National, her title should have been International Music Department President since the COGIC Church has always been International).
Dr. Mattie Moss Clark 1968/72 -1994
- Her legacy has created and helped to shape some of the most successful gospel artists, including Vanessa Bell Armstrong, Donald Vails, Commissioned, Bishop Richard “Mr. Clean” White, Elder James Lenox, Psalmist Bettye Ransom Nelson, Esther Smith, Keith Pringle, Bishop Rance Allen, Rev. James Moore and her own daughters, The Clark Sisters. Dr. Clark made a series of recordings beginning with "Going to Heaven to Meet the King" in 1958, becoming the first person to commit the sounds of a choir to record. She is the first to separate vocal parts into soprano, alto, and tenor. She received three gold-certified albums with the Southwest Michigan State Choir and went on to write and arrange hundreds of songs and record over 50 albums. After his elevation as the first elected Presiding Bishop, The late Bishop J. O. Patterson, Sr. appointed Dr. Clark the President of the International Music Department in 1968. Dr. Clark completely revolutionized the music departments. She defined the role of the (Jurisdictional) State Minister of Music, traveled year-round to every state in the country, conducting workshops, rehearsals, and musicals to prepare choirs for service on the National Church level, and organized the structure of the National Music Convention of the Church of God in Christ. Dr. Clark introduced the workshop and seminar concept to the convention and, along with her staff, structured classes and created “A Song Is Born,” the program where new talent was introduced before thousands. She was also one of the editors and contributors to the hymnal published by the Church Of God In Christ entitled “Yes, Lord.”
Sister LuVonia Whittley - 1994 to 2001
- Sister LuVonia Whittley of Chicago was appointed President of the COGIC Music Department in 1994. She is recognized for building a music department to include close to 1,500 singers and musicians as Jurisdictional Minister of Music for the First Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction of Illinois. In 1992, she was appointed as Vice President of the International Music Department. In 1994, she was appointed to succeed the late Dr. Mattie Moss Clark and served for 6½ years as the President of the International Music Department (under the late Bishop Louis H. Ford and the late Bishop Chandler D. Owens), recognized for bringing administrative finesse, organizational structure and wide participation to the department, and raising the level of music for Convocation worship services.
Professor Iris Stevenson McCullough - 2001 to 2008
- Dr. McCullough was appointed as an International Vice President by the late Presiding Bishop Louis Henry Ford in 1994 and reappointed by the late Presiding Bishop Chandler David Owens. In 2001, the late Presiding Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson elevated Professor Iris Stevenson-McCollough to the high office of International Music President. During her tenure, Professor Iris employed a global ministry focus and a parade of colorful gospel songs and arrangements full of joviality and infectious rhythms. The Movie Sister Act II is based on Dr. Iris Stevenson McCullough's life.
Dr. Judith McAllister - 2009 to 2021
- Dr. Judith Christie McAllister, often hailed as “The First Lady of Praise and Worship,” is a distinguished leader in Music Ministry. With a career span of over four decades, this Grammy-nominated Choir Director’s fingerprints can be found on the hearts and lives of Ministers of Music and Worship Leaders everywhere. Her signature songs, such as “Oh Give Thanks” and “To Our God,” recorded on her own record label (Judah Music Group), have transcended cultural and racial barriers, enriching worship services worldwide. From 2009 to 2021, McAllister served as the President of the International Music Department (IMD) for the Church of God In Christ, providing oversight, impact, and innovation to the musical constituency of the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world under the administration of Presiding Bishop Emeritus – Bishop Charles E. Blake, Sr.
Dr. Myron Williams - 2021 to Present Day
Williams, long-time Music Director for Juanita Bynum Ministries, is credited with the music and sound fans of Flow Records have grown to love. A renowned worship and praise leader, he found a way to harness the power and intensity of a praise service and capture the feeling on a track. This is why his production and writing skills are utilized by some of gospel music’s biggest recording artists, including T.D. Jakes, Kim Burrell, Marvin Sapp, DFW Mass Choir, Karen Clark-Sheard, and former Flow Records artist Juanita Bynum, of which he produced 7 chart-topping CDs. In 2021, Presiding Bishop J. Drew Sheard appointed Dr. Myron Williams as President of the International Music Department, a position he still holds today.
- Credit to IMD
- COGIC Whole Truth
- COGIC Souvenir books
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The Detroit News
Sunday, Nov 02, 1986
Interview with the Great Dr. Mattie Moss Clark
Mattie Moss Clark finds her favorite spot on the couch in her northwest Detroit home and relaxes while her daughters buzz around the house preparing for a rehearsal. She lives here with her oldest daughter, Twinkie, the leader of the Clark Sisters. The phone rings.
“Answer the phone, somebody,” Mrs. Clark hollers.
“I'm busy now.” No response.
“Did you hear me? Answer that phone.
The ringing stops. At 52, Mrs. Clark still rules her household, her children, and as director of the Music Department of the Church of God in Christ.
She dominates, She controls, ... And, she mothers.
“You cut yourself shaving,” she says to me. “You
should put some vinegar on that. It'll dry it right up.”
It’s this blend of control and concern that perched her squarely on the throne of Detroit Gospel music. She's the only gospel artist in Detroit to have earned three gold records. She's determined to maintain that hold through her Mattie Moss Clark Conservatory of Music on West Seven Mile in Detroit, founded three years ago.
Her daughters, the Clark sisters, train hopefuls for careers in gospel. Several Detroit gospel artists have already emerged from Mrs. Clark's stable:
Douglas Miller, Donald Vails, Esther Smith, Vanessa Bell-Armstrong and Rance Allen.
Mrs. Clark also helped her five daughters - Twinkie, Jacky, Dorinda, Karen, and Denise- to become one of the top gospel groups in the Country. They'll remain that way, she says, "as long as they do what I tell them to do. I tell them, "God has given you his anointing. Don't abuse it."
It's this I-don't-take-no-stuff attitude that's helped Mrs. Clark become successful, as her friends will attest:
"She was one of the first ones to come with the hard-breaking knock-them-dead gospel," said Donald Vails, who moved from Atlanta to Detroit in 1965 to join her Southwest Michigan Community Choir." "People came to Detroit just to sing with Mattie Moss. She gave a lot of folks a chance in their gospel career."
"Mattie has produced a lot of good singers," says Derrick Brinkley." People who could not sing at all come out vocalizing."
"She's done good work," Andrae Crouch says. "She's a disciplinary person as far as choirs are concerned. In her choirs and her rehearsals and things, she's tough."
Mrs. Clark is also tough on her daughters. She believes they should not wear makeup or pants and that they should remain virgins until they're married. And why not? She says, "I grew up that way."
The third oldest among six brothers and a sister, Mrs. Clark was born in Selma, Alabama., where her parents pastored the Church of Prayer Holiness.
"My mother was strict on me." she says, "We couldn't go to the movies or iron or sew on Sunday. No, the only thing we could do was go to church."
Mrs. Clark began playing piano at age 6. She attended Selma University for 2 1/2 years, where she majored in music. She dropped out later and came to Detroit with her sister at age 19. She played piano for small churches around the city. She met her husband, Elbert Clark, and had five daughters and a son, Leo.
Mrs. Clark played at several Church of God in Christ locations before being appointed as state director of the music department for the church group in 1957 and International director 10 years later.
She made her first recording, God, Do Something for Me, in 1957. Afterward, she and James Cleveland signed an 11-year contract with Savoy Records, where she earned three gold records with her She's Michigan State Choir. She left Savoy in 1975. "The Lord spoke to me and told me I would never get anywhere because by being on the same label, they were only interested in pushing James Cleveland," she says.
An anonymous record producer said it was more like Savoy couldn't take her anymore. "She was so demanding, he explains.
Her domineering personality and boastfulness often draw criticism. When her name is mentioned, some gospel artists just shake their heads and say, "She's something else" or, "You know how Mattie is."
Mrs. Clark claims she gave most Detroit gospel groups their start. "She had nothing to do with us responds Carvin Winans of the Winans. "What she talking about now?" asks Fred Hammond, leader of Commissioned.
Mrs. Clark defends against the barbs. "I'm being fought on the stage because I stand for the Bible."
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