Remember it’s not about winning, it’s about saving ace. In that case, it is definitely possible. But winning against the big guns of 3 og admirals, sengoku garp and Mihawk is not something they can achieve yet.
3 years ago | 1,100
Remember that it's more than just Kizaru, Akainu and Aokiji. There's also Garp. Garp held back when Luffy fought him, but if Luffy were strong enough to compete with the admirals, he might not have. And Garp was a guy who could fight on the level of Roger or Rocks. Luffy alone couldn't deal with all 4 of those, plus Sengoku too. Sanji and Zoro could at best probably take one admiral together, or maybe one each. The rest of the Strawhats have no Haki so they're basically out of the fight. There's nobody in the Grand Fleet who could challenge an admiral either. So Luffy is stuck fighting 3 or 4 admirals himself. The rest of the battle doesn't even matter.
3 years ago | 65
If their grand fleet includes the islands under them (wano, fishman, etc) then yes but if it’s only the grand fleet then no.
3 years ago | 141
Garp, Sengoku, 3 Admirals, Mihawk, Doflamingo, Pazifista, Blackbeard and Crew vs Luffy, Zoro and Sanji
3 years ago | 7
Barto's Barrier ability basically grants the Straw hats an instant win on saving Ace, the pirates can take their sweet time as long as Barto can keep his fingers crossed
3 years ago | 1
To clarify, this is only Luffy, his crew and the grand fleet alone. That means no Whitebeard, no Whitebeard crew or fleet. (meaning no Marco, Jozu, etc.) This is highly unlikely to be pulled off unless it's a stealth mission to get Ace out of Impel down because this is Marineford we're talking about. The 3 OG Admirals, Garp and Sengoku alongside the entirety of the Marines' higher echelon of troops. In a frontal assault, I just see no way the Straw Hats make it out of this one with Ace in tow, even with G5 Luffy.
3 years ago | 2
remember the plan is only to save ace not to beat the entire marine army, i think its feasible.
3 years ago | 1
71% percent who voted yes are wrong. Seems that everyone's is forgetting GARP SENGOKU AND 3 PRIME ADMIRALS! Also, they were only able to free ace with the power of the wax wax fruit, which they don't have access to in this scenario..
3 years ago (edited) | 14
With the way the straw hat grand fleet is. I feel there is truly nothing they couldn’t do at this point
3 years ago | 1
So you're saying that the person who could break the entire world, fought toe to toe with the pirate king, also had a grand fleet himself of all the people he came across the past 40 years or so could not save ace. But luffy, a person who does not understand his devil fruit well enough yet can take on the entire marine forces and rescue ace... Also people seem to forget that even whitebeard had conquerers haki
3 years ago | 13
I think they could, Bartolomeo would be so useful for protecting Ace. I see Orlombus throwing him to the executioners block so that Barto then just chills there and tanks the hits. Lots of cool things they could've done.
3 years ago | 1
The thing is that they got Ace free during Marineford and then Ace got provoked by Akainu which caused his death.
3 years ago | 1
No lol All 3 admirals are there including garp and sengoku plus the warlords
3 years ago (edited) | 4
You guys are really undercutting the strategic play between Sengoku and Whitebeard that took place. Could the Grand Fleet hold their own? Sure. Could they effectively break in and safely return Ace? They’d need to outthink Fleet Admiral
3 years ago | 14
Whitebeards help was literally everyone BUT Luffys gang. That's too small
3 years ago | 1
Bartolommeo just walks with a barrier around him to ace and frees him simple😭
3 years ago | 0
The best chance the Straw Hats would have at saving ace would be a stealth mission or speed blitz. It’s plausible that Robin could disguise herself as a navy soldier and then use her fruit to unlock Ace’s cuffs. Maybe Sanji could rush to the execution platform, grab Ace, and then head back (the same way he saved Momonosuke). I don’t think this is a likely outcome, but it’s definitely possible
3 years ago | 271
StojDoes
Could the current Straw Hats (with their grand fleet) save Ace from Marineford without Whitebeard's help
3 years ago | [YT] | 2,402