Angron had NO CHOICE - the point of his story is utter misfortune, the nails would ruin anyone
1 month ago | 300
Fulgrims literally comes down to just him not putting down the obviously suspicious ass sword.
1 month ago | 231
Perturabo. He should have been a non-aligned independent factor in the galaxy similar to the Ashen Claws.
1 month ago | 135
Magnus not fighting tooth and nail to prove himself a loyalist who made a genuine mistake with good intentions will never not annoy me. The writers just wanted a red Primarch traitor, cause I always felt like his reaction to what he had done in trying to contact the Emperor wasn’t true to his character.
1 month ago | 145
FULGRIM What i hate most is that, him not putting down the sword might be a good representation of self sabbotage, maybe part of him wanted out of having to fullfill great expectations, and then in a moment of weakness he allows himself to be possessed, that was a very original fall... But then he reposesses his body and exorcises the daemon, and now hes not depressed anymore, and hes just fully evil? What? He went from a full good guy to fully evil and sadistic literally OFF SCREEN.
4 weeks ago | 28
Hate the most? Depends what you mean by that. The one I wish never happened is Perterabo. I think his character would be better served if he were a non-Chaos renegade Primarch.
1 month ago | 92
Angron. He had no chance, once the nails were installed. Poor bastard. The Emperor should have Old Yeller'd him, it would have been the best choice.
1 month ago | 10
Magnus could have exiled himself from prospero to save it and directly surrender to Leman Russ. But no he had to behave like an undecisive dumbass, the worst trait for a general. 20 intelligence but 0 wisdom.
1 month ago | 23
Angron taking away that boys trauma as he dreamed nightmares from all the slaughter he seen, that messed me up. Angron was the best of all the traitors pre nails and we will never know the man he could have been.
4 weeks ago | 4
I’m not sure I understand the question. Is it the fall we hate the most because we wish it hadn’t happened, the fall we hate the most because of bad writing/plot, or the fall we hate the most because of the long-term implications?
4 weeks ago | 5
Magnus at least got fragmented, so it makes sense that theres a version of him without the traits that would restrain him from falling. Fulgrim its just ''well seeking perfection is bad, this is a common trope, so lets make him fall due to being uncaracteristically naive and uncritical, even if that doesnt fit him''. People love waxing poetical about how tragically beautifull his fall is, but to me it feels like its trying to hit all the notes of ''beautifull character falls to narcissism and degeneracy'' without actually earning any of it. People that like it like it because its superficially referencing a genuenly interesting trope, not because its doing it well. And having my favourite character (pre fall Fulgrim) be sacrificed just to badly execute on that trope makes me genuenly angry. Specially because the writters got tired half way aparently and made him go from someone who tragically gives up in a moment of weakness, to someone who suddently fully embraces being evil. Imagine if Fulgrim, after his moment of weakness and swearing alligance to Slaanesh, has to follow Slaanesh basically out of a pact he made, but is otherwise disgusted by everything hes doing, wouldnt that be fascinating? Maybe seeing him slowly grow to enjoy it because he has no choice but do those things, so a pathological ''if you cant beat them, join them'' mentality creeps up on him. Or maybe the option to give in to whatever desires he has slowly wins over him, and he starts resenting the expectations for perfection he had under the Emperor, but deep down he still knows he was nobler and better before his fall and that makes him bitter... But NAH, he just reposesses his body and decides to become fully evil, lets ignore the whole painting plotline. They just fumbled it in such avoidable ways so, many, times, feels like no respect was put into the characters fall.
4 weeks ago | 5
Angron was so preventable bro all the emperor had to do was help Angron lock in.
1 month ago | 9
Magnus. The myriad of excuses and just sheer derp that went into his fall. Just felt so contrived.
1 month ago | 39
Magnus and Fulgrim are tied for me since they were both able to create utopias of the planets they landed on, showing their incredible potential for good.
1 month ago | 9
Mortarion is the saddest. His right hand guy was a long time nurglite who stabbed him in the back, then forced morty to suffer and watch his legion suffer for weeks until he gave into the disease aflicting them.
4 weeks ago | 2
Fulgrim because of the Daemon possession retcon, him being trapped in the painting at the end of Fulgrim was a dark tragedy, he saw his legion's corruption and it ruined him, then he had even the escape of death stolen from him.
4 weeks ago | 1
I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Reflection Crack'd
1 month ago | 4
The fall of Magnus is the greatest tragedy as the cause of his fall was the destruction of prospero caused by the Emperor's wrath at magnus's actions to warn of the HH contra Nikea... He was a loyal primarch who fell. But he chose to fall rather than submit to Russ. (I know Horus falsified the orders between the Emperor and Russ)
1 month ago | 5
The Amber King
Which fall to Chaos do you HATE the most?
1 month ago | [YT] | 407